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re: Dahmer - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story Trailer (Netflix) - Evan Peters Stars
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:02 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:02 pm to VoxDawg
Dahmer was afraid Tony would leave and never come back so he killed him. I think being afraid to be left behind is a result of his parents leaving him by himself so much. Especially in his late high school years. His parents were too wrapped up in their own problems and let Jeffrey fall through the cracks into a deep and dark place.
With that being said, I don't blame his parents for their son being what he was. He was born a monster, not made one IMO.
With that being said, I don't blame his parents for their son being what he was. He was born a monster, not made one IMO.
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:06 pm to sweetwaterbilly
Does the show touch upon speculation of any crimes committed between 1978 and 1987?
Such a weirdly long lull between his first and second murders. One would have to speculate that there are unidentified victims from that period.
Such a weirdly long lull between his first and second murders. One would have to speculate that there are unidentified victims from that period.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:09 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Does the show touch upon speculation of any crimes committed between 1978 and 1987?
To my recollection, it takes Dahmer at his word that after the hitchhiker and the dude from the club where he inadvertently dosed himself, he said he went without killing anyone.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:11 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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how long Dahmer would've gotten away with it had he had a standalone house.
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. I must've misremembered the story at the time (was in HS when he was caught), because I thought it was a single family home. I wasn't aware that he lived in an apartment.
Glenda Cleveland was a saint.
If the cops who escorted the 14 year old Laotian kid back into Dahmer's apartment really were treated like heroes by their police union, every last one of those people at that banquet needs to burn in hell.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:18 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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we wondered how long Dahmer would've gotten away with it had he had a standalone house. Kind of terrifying to think about.
He probably would have put up John Wayne Gacy numbers
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:34 pm to The Hispanic Titanic
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Dahmer was afraid Tony would leave and never come back so he killed him. I think being afraid to be left behind is a result of his parents leaving him by himself so much. Especially in his late high school years. His parents were too wrapped up in their own problems and let Jeffrey fall through the cracks into a deep and dark place.
With that being said, I don't blame his parents for their son being what he was. He was born a monster, not made one IMO.
He slipped through the cracks for sure, but that only fed his insanity. If he had two solid parents, maybe he keeps it together, gets help, or is put away in an asylum for life. Real hard to hold down a compulsion. I don't think a solid nuclear family can outdo that.
He was a pure monster, but not one that should have been shoved in prison gen pop to make Jesse Jackson happy. Netflix celebrating that was almost as nauseating as the taxidermy scenes.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:37 pm to AnAmericanGirl
quote:kinda annoys me that netflix didn't reach out to any of the victims families to get any insight
I appreciated the view from his neighbors and the victim's families. How this affected them gets lost in this story. Obviously the families had to learn how to deal with a loss of a loved one
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:26 pm to VoxDawg
They exaggerated that part for entertainment purposes. She actually lived in the neighboring building, not his.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:35 am to Rza32
His rent was $300 a month.
Milwaukee just seems so dreary and boring..imagine your last days being in Milwaukee circa 1989 or 90. You don't even get to see the 1990s, how much would that suck..
Maybe he should have just smoked pot instead of drank.
Milwaukee just seems so dreary and boring..imagine your last days being in Milwaukee circa 1989 or 90. You don't even get to see the 1990s, how much would that suck..
Maybe he should have just smoked pot instead of drank.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:55 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Was talking to a friend about the show this weekend and we wondered how long Dahmer would've gotten away with it had he had a standalone house.
He would have gotten caught at some point eventually. Look at what happened to Gacy.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 1:06 am to EarlyCuyler3
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He would have gotten caught at some point eventually. Look at what happened to Gacy.
Depending on if he had close neighbors like gacy in the suburbs. If he lived in a very rural area, who knows. Most likely would have got caught drinking and driving while transporting human remains.
Gacy didn't dismember, de-bone and smash the bones to dust to scatter. He was a lazy fat frick
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:49 am to Cajunhawk81
He deserved to be executed for his crimes. Being shanked to death in Gen pop was a fitting ending for him.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 6:50 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:47 am to finchmeister08
The first episode was definitely intense and uncomfortable. It’s very well done
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:01 am to Rza32
It's odd. I enjoyed the hell out of this series, and you'll never convince me that Evan Peters doesn't deserve for the Emmy truck to be backed up to his house and get ALL of them for pretty much any role he plays.
That said, I give Mrs. Vox a hard time for watching all of these true crime shows. I don't know what it is about suburban white women being fascinated with murder programs, but it's got their hooks in them for sure. I usually am not interested, but Peters starring in it won me over.
I'm surprised this wasn't the latest season of American Crime Story.
That said, I give Mrs. Vox a hard time for watching all of these true crime shows. I don't know what it is about suburban white women being fascinated with murder programs, but it's got their hooks in them for sure. I usually am not interested, but Peters starring in it won me over.
I'm surprised this wasn't the latest season of American Crime Story.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:56 am to finchmeister08
We watched the first two last night. Ryan Murphy is a different kind of cat. What's so funny is my wife watches all these datelines and everything but seeing it portrayed and as gruesome as it is she has to close her eyes 
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:06 am to Captain Crown
The current thing with women loving true crime stuff is going to be a future #metoo fiasco. The next generation will look back and wag their collective finger at us for celebrating torture and murder.
Just a heads up for those wanting to attend a true crime convention. Don't get photographed there if you want to run for office in 2032.
Just a heads up for those wanting to attend a true crime convention. Don't get photographed there if you want to run for office in 2032.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:28 am to The Hispanic Titanic
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Dahmer was afraid Tony would leave and never come back so he killed him. I think being afraid to be left behind is a result of his parents leaving him by himself so much. Especially in his late high school years. His parents were too wrapped up in their own problems and let Jeffrey fall through the cracks into a deep and dark place.
With that being said, I don't blame his parents for their son being what he was. He was born a monster, not made one IMO.
I think you can consider that a contributing factor, but there are other kids that happens to and they don't end up monsters. Also, there were signs he was a weirdo from a young age including his fascination with bones and collecting roadkill. The family life poured gasoline on whatever was to come.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:36 am to Napoleon
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Being shanked to death in Gen pop was a fitting ending for him.
was he shanked? i thought a guy cut him off at the door of the gym and bashed him in the head twice?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:37 am to Rza32
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She actually lived in the neighboring building, not his
Yep.
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One of the biggest changes to real events is the character of Glenda Cleveland (Niecy Nash). In the show, she lives adjacent to Jeffrey Dahmer, who resides in apartment 213 in the Oxford Apartments on 25th Street in Milwaukee.
The real-life Cleveland lived in a building next door. It seems likely that the show attempted to amalgamate Cleveland and neighbor Pamela Bass into one character. It's Bass who said that Dahmer made sandwiches for others in the building, which becomes the subject of an unsettling exchange between the Dahmer and Cleveland characters later in the show.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:45 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Does the show touch upon speculation of any crimes committed between 1978 and 1987?
Such a weirdly long lull between his first and second murders. One would have to speculate that there are unidentified victims from that period.
The show implies that he was a regular at Milwaukee gay bars and bath houses in the 80s but that his strange behavior and habit of slipping mickeys into other's drinks led him to be banned from these establishments. Milwaukee probably didn't have a huge gay scene compared to other major cities so once he was barred he wound up hunting on the streets.
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