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re: Christopher Nolan - Interstellar
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:36 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:36 am to OMLandshark
quote:we will never know
He could have met some of them before the hospital scene
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:40 pm to molsusports
Nolan from Baton Rouge? Please site source. Everything I find says he was born and raised in London. No mention anywhere of any connection to BR.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:47 pm to AMS
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Your only confused bc your still 110% dedicated to linear time axis logic like LOST. which doesn't apply to deeper dimensions where time isn't linear like in the tesseract.
If Cooper was a 5th dimensional being then these rules would apply. Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being and is merely a guest there. Since Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being, it has to start somewhere. If the 5th dimensional beings sent Cooper the coordinates, this isn’t an issue, but it is when he sends the coordinates to himself.
The fact that Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being makes a linear component inevitable in this equation. The linear rules apply to Cooper and all creatures until he arrives at the Tesseract. Again, how does he get there in the first place? You can’t completely throw the linearity out of it.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:04 pm to OMLandshark
Why are you so stuck on Cooper being the fifth dimensional being? He’s very clearly not, nor ever will be. They are evolved humans from the distant future (in linear time). They sent the coordinates to Cooper, which led him to NASA and that whole storyline, and eventually into the black hole and the tesseract where he could access all points of time and he accessed the bookshelf to give Murph the answer to gravity.
As complicated a movie as this is, you are making it ten times more complicated with your bullshite. You’re like a five year old that keeps asking “why?” over and over despite being told the answer a hundred times.
As complicated a movie as this is, you are making it ten times more complicated with your bullshite. You’re like a five year old that keeps asking “why?” over and over despite being told the answer a hundred times.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:43 pm to Damone
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Zimmer is an artistic genius
I think he must be an alien. He doesn't just compose incredible music but it's like it was just meant to be for the movies he does. I watched Interstellar the other night like OP did. It's been a long time since I've seen it and I was absolutely hypnotized by that score. I'm not sure what the movie would have been without it
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:56 pm to CocomoLSU
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Why are you so stuck on Cooper being the fifth dimensional being?
Because only a 5th dimensional being can alert themself into doing something they wouldn’t have otherwise done. This is important. Cooper is linear even if the 5th dimensional beings aren’t.
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They sent the coordinates to Cooper, which led him to NASA and that whole storyline, and eventually into the black hole and the tesseract where he could access all points of time and he accessed the bookshelf to give Murph the answer to gravity.
No they did not. He sent them to himself. That’s the issue here.
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As complicated a movie as this is, you are making it ten times more complicated with your bullshite. You’re like a five year old that keeps asking “why?” over and over despite being told the answer a hundred times.
Cooper is between the 3rd and 4th dimension heading linearly to the 5th dimension. You can’t discount that which makes him sending the coordinates to himself impossible. STAY and Plan A he can still do since he would have been there regardless, but not the coordinates.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:08 pm to OMLandshark
Nolan deserves mega Kudos just for the visuals of Gargantua.
The first time a black hole has been modeled visually accurately for an audience. Worked with Kip Thorne, and he is a national treasure.
The first time a black hole has been modeled visually accurately for an audience. Worked with Kip Thorne, and he is a national treasure.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:15 pm to alpinetiger
Interstellar is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time and very under-appreciated. I remember seeing it in theaters and loving every second.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:16 pm to ScottFowler
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Nolan deserves mega Kudos just for the visuals of Gargantua.
That’s saying it lightly. His computing discovered how a black hole actually looks. When they did the calculation with the original image, they thought there was no way a black hole actually looks like that, but they discovered that was true. I remember watching the trailer thinking Nolan made that up, but he didn’t. The movie was worth it just for this image:
Posted on 1/7/22 at 8:30 pm to molsusports
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Little known fact. Nolan is from Baton Rouge
You SOB, you got me I was like wait, fo real? And went and looked it up.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:53 pm to CocomoLSU
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They sent the coordinates to Cooper,
The Tesseract, created by the 5th dimension beings, is an advanced AI that chose Cooper/Murph and sent him the coordinates the very first time.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:09 pm to alpinetiger
I re-watched it for the first time the other night when it was on FX and I was floored. It really is a masterpiece. The score and visuals laid on top of Nolan’s story/characters is just crazy.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:25 pm to OMLandshark
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If Cooper was a 5th dimensional being then these rules would apply. Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being and is merely a guest there. Since Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being, it has to start somewhere. If the 5th dimensional beings sent Cooper the coordinates, this isn’t an issue, but it is when he sends the coordinates to himself.
The fact that Cooper is not a 5th dimensional being makes a linear component inevitable in this equation. The linear rules apply to Cooper and all creatures until he arrives at the Tesseract. Again, how does he get there in the first place? You can’t completely throw the linearity out of it.
Bolded quote is why your time logic interpretation fails horribly. time didn't just sprout other dimensions and change its rules once coop got to the tesseract.... time was always multidimensional with multidimensional rules applying. coop is bound by multidimensional rules although primarily perceived as the linear component due to his specific dimensional plane of existence.
an analogy for what your logic describes is trying to analyze a 3D box only using length. you can't accurately analyze that box because all you can perceive is the length. multidimensional time is much like that 3D box, you cannot accurately interpret the entire circumstance of multidimensional time by belligerently insisting on only referencing 1 dimensional linear time. the point being all dimensions CO-EXIST and are just components of the same "multidimensional box'.
it only seems paradoxical to you in linear time, because you are analyzing a '3D multidimensional box of time' but you are only willing to reference the length of the box. it wont work, you need additional perspectives and dimensions.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:43 pm to OMLandshark
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Cooper is between the 3rd and 4th dimension heading linearly to the 5th dimension. You can’t discount that which makes him sending the coordinates to himself impossible. STAY and Plan A he can still do since he would have been there regardless, but not the coordinates.
everything is co-existing in all dimensions, regardless of whichever specific dimensions coop can perceive.
the medium used was gravity, which for the 23568th time, gravity transcends time. it doesnt matter at all what frame of reference time that the gravity was sent from as gravity is not bound by time at all, even if coop is.
you are applying 1 dimensional rules to multidimensional time which doesnt make any sense. gravity doesnt care about your linear timeline, nor does multidimensional time.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:30 am to alpinetiger
Movie is phenomenal. Absolute A+
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:18 pm to JesusQuintana
Absolutely love this movie but it's so hard for me to watch now after having a kid. Did anyone else experience this? Him leaving and missing her life essentially is something I'm conscious of the entire time. It's brutal.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:29 pm to LfcSU3520
I don’t even have a kid and I couldn’t get over how unconscionable it would be to sign up for that mission if you were a father of two. Going into space period would be pretty selfish if you had kids.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:31 pm to Corso
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It's been a long time since I've seen it and I was absolutely hypnotized by that score. I'm not sure what the movie would have been without it
One of my favorite scores of all time
And like others have already said, I love this movie even with the last 15 minutes being a bit of a mess
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:43 pm to beaverfever
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I don’t even have a kid and I couldn’t get over how unconscionable it would be to sign up for that mission if you were a father of two. Going into space period would be pretty selfish if you had kids.
Not if it was to save your species. That’s the heart of the movie. Cooper had no other choice and made the correct decision as tragic as those ramifications may have been for himself and his daughter.
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