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Canceling shows-lightning fast
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 6/19/26 at 11:40 pm
I am truly amazed how quickly streaming services cancel (or decline to renew for another season) after the first season or two. In reading about The Boroughs on Netflix, by the 16th day after release, it was not picked up for season 2. What is going on? Can this situation improve?
I know there was a mention of the Duffer Brothers’ move to Paramount being a factor, but this was known well before its release. So for those who start watching after day 16, do we just hope it ended the first season without too many cliffhangers and was somewhat satisfying at the end?
I remember hearing about a show from a streaming service which was supposed to be good, and finally watching it online. When the second season ended, I looked to see when season three was coming out. It was not to be. I know this has always occurred with network shows, but even then there was a small chance fan interest would trigger another season. Star Trek, with its many spin-offs and movies, was not supposed to be on the air for its second season. Fan uproar made the difference. More recently, other services have picked up canceled network shows such as Arrested Development and Designated Survivor.
So, is there anything to do about this or is it the new paradigm we have to live with? Do audiences matter if a show is slow to catch on?
I know there was a mention of the Duffer Brothers’ move to Paramount being a factor, but this was known well before its release. So for those who start watching after day 16, do we just hope it ended the first season without too many cliffhangers and was somewhat satisfying at the end?
I remember hearing about a show from a streaming service which was supposed to be good, and finally watching it online. When the second season ended, I looked to see when season three was coming out. It was not to be. I know this has always occurred with network shows, but even then there was a small chance fan interest would trigger another season. Star Trek, with its many spin-offs and movies, was not supposed to be on the air for its second season. Fan uproar made the difference. More recently, other services have picked up canceled network shows such as Arrested Development and Designated Survivor.
So, is there anything to do about this or is it the new paradigm we have to live with? Do audiences matter if a show is slow to catch on?
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:00 am to casualobserver
quote:on cable shows there is some weird number of eps like 67 or something where all the union contracts insist salaries and residuals must increase. That's why so many Disney channel series end around that number
I am truly amazed how quickly streaming services cancel (or decline to renew for another season) after the first season or two. In reading about The Boroughs on Netflix, by the 16th day after release, it was not picked up for season 2. What is going on? Can this situation improve?
this may be a similar situation
Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:29 am to casualobserver
Calm down. Burroughs was done after one season anyway.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:27 am to Murray
But they ended with more of that glitchy thing happening, which im not sure was ever explained.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 6:14 am to casualobserver
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I am truly amazed how quickly streaming services cancel (or decline to renew for another season) after the first season or two.
I'd be really close to cancelling "The Office" after the first season and I know I am not the only one. Two weeks after release of a show on Netflix does seem like a fairly short amount of time but Netflix has plenty of studio content to burn.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 6:37 am to casualobserver
Netflix has always been like this haven't they? I loved Marco Polo and they canceled it on cliffhanger.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 7:19 am to casualobserver
Firefly would like a word.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 7:44 am to casualobserver
Netflix uses social media as a way to measure interest. If people arent talking about a show on Twitter or tiktok, it doesn't get renewed
Posted on 6/20/26 at 8:12 am to casualobserver
Buffy ran for 7 seasons after being picked up by a second network. Season one was campy at best and the show didn’t really hit its stride until season 3.
I’ve not seen The Boroughs but knowing it’s already been rug pulled after just one season, what’s the point?
Velma & freaking Star Trek Academy got 2 seasons and are possibly the worst things to TV.
This is the absurdity of current day television.
I’ve not seen The Boroughs but knowing it’s already been rug pulled after just one season, what’s the point?
Velma & freaking Star Trek Academy got 2 seasons and are possibly the worst things to TV.
This is the absurdity of current day television.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 8:26 am to nes2010
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Netflix has always been like this haven't they? I loved Marco Polo and they canceled it on cliffhanger.
I thought KAOS was pretty good and it got cancelled quickly too.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 8:48 am to BluegrassBelle
KAOS was awesome. Pissed me off they canceled it.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 8:51 am to ColdDuck
It certainly was different. That alone made it worth watching.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 8:54 am to BluegrassBelle
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I loved Marco Polo and they canceled it on cliffhanger.
That show had some great nudity
in addition to being a good show.Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:32 pm to bad93ex
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I'd be really close to cancelling "The Office" after the first season and I know I am not the only one. Two weeks after release of a show on Netflix does seem like a fairly short amount of time but Netflix has plenty of studio content to burn.
I remember the first season of The Office as well, and I agree 100%. I didn’t attempt to list all shows which were strangled in the cradle, I haven’t even finished The Boroughs, it was a contemporary example, that’s all.
I suppose it’s a lack of understanding the economics of that industry on my part. Another area where I more clearly see what I don’t know.
Thanks to everyone who chimed in.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:40 pm to casualobserver
It was ranked number 2 on streaming services with 1.2 billion minutes watched its first week and ranked 2nd all month. That means all the other 150 shows behind it did worse than this show. Not sure how they answer any of those questions.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:57 pm to EH Taylor
It’s why I rarely watch Netflix shows when they first “pop” in case they get canceled a week after it drops then you’ve wasted all
Those hours for a show with no resolution
Those hours for a show with no resolution
Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:16 pm to nes2010
Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:18 pm to EH Taylor
Report out cites the cost and beef with the Duffer Brothers leaving
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Two sources tell THR that a problem with The Boroughs was its expensive production budget. That is true: The Boroughs costs about $10 million per episode, one said. Another said the real number is “materially higher.” Netflix weighs viewership directly against cost when making pickup and cancellation decisions, and though The Boroughs did well, it wasn’t quite Wednesday. But the quiet-part-out-loud here is that the Duffer Brothers ditching Netflix for a four-year deal at Paramount seems to have rubbed high-ranking Netflix executives the wrong way, the first source told THR. The relationship there has been “tough” since Matt and Ross “embarrassed” the streamer by leaving, the source said. A source close to Netflix denied the accuracy of that characterization, and says this was simply a business decision.
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:28 pm to TigerintheNO
The way 1899 ended I was dying to see another year. I hope the writers at least tell us what happens next lol.
Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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The Boroughs did well, it wasn’t quite Wednesday
So in order to be picked up for another season it has to be the highest viewed streaming tv show of all time like Wednesday.
Holy shite that's a lot of pressure for future shows
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