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re: Can you recommend any good/great WW2 movies that...
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:31 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:31 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I've been waiting for a modern update
But it's likely to be another Pearl Harbor (compared to the infinitely superior Tora! Tora! Tora!), pretty, vapid and heavily historically revisionist.
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Modern in the sense of Flags of our Fathers or Letters from Iwo Jima.
These are great films by a great filmmaker. The updated Midway film is being made by disaster film specialist Emmerich. Might as well be a Michael Bay film.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 2:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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These are great films by a great filmmaker. The updated Midway film is being made by disaster film specialist Emmerich. Might as well be a Michael Bay film.
This. It will be Gawd awful but take in a ton of money with a eye toward the sequel:
Midway 2: Pinball Wizard vs. Godzilla
Posted on 2/26/19 at 6:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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The updated Midway film is being made by disaster film specialist Emmerich. Might as well be a Michael Bay film
That's a shame because it's one of the most remarkable victories of all-time and deserves better to the heroes who went into a battle severely out-matched.
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Seventy-five years ago (June 4-7, 1942), the astonishing American victory at the Battle of Midway changed the course of the Pacific War.
Just six months after the catastrophic Japanese surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, the U.S. crushed the Imperial Japanese Navy off Midway Island (about 1,300 miles northwest of Honolulu), sinking four of its aircraft carriers.
Just half a year after being surprised at Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Navy had already destroyed almost half of Japan’s existing carrier strength (after achieving a standoff at the Battle of the Coral Sea a month earlier).
No military had ever won more territory in six months than had Japan. Its Pacific Empire ranged from the Indian Ocean to the coast of the Aleutian Islands, and from the Russian-Manchurian border to Wake Island in the Pacific.
Yet the Japanese Navy was roundly defeated by an outnumbered and inexperienced American fleet at Midway.
Why and how?
American commanders were far more open to improvising and risk-taking than their Japanese counterparts. In contrast, Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto created an elaborate but rigid plan of attack that included an invasion of the Aleutian Islands as well as Midway.
But such impractical agendas dispersed the much larger Japanese fleet all over the central and northern Pacific, ensuring that the Japanese could never focus their overwhelming numerical advantages on the modest three-carrier American fleet.
A month earlier at the Battle of the Coral Sea, the Japanese suffered damage to one of their carriers and serious aircraft losses on another. The American carrier Lexington was sunk, and the Yorktown was severely damaged.
But whereas the Japanese took months repairing the bombed carrier Shokaku and replenishing the lost planes of the Zuikaku, the crippled Yorktown (with damage estimated at 3 months to repair) was made seaworthy again at Pearl Harbor just 72 hours after limping into port by 1,500 sailors working around the clock.
The result of such incredible adaptability was that at Midway the Americans had three carriers (rather than two), against four for the Japanese (instead of a possible six).
Midway was probably the best chance for Japan to destroy U.S. naval power in the Pacific before America’s enormous war industry created another new fleet entirely.
Japan could not equal American industrial strength, but American aviators and seamen could certainly match the Samurai courage of their Japanese counterparts.
At Midway, 37 of the 41 slow-flying and obsolete American Devastator torpedo bombers lumbered to their deaths, as they were easily picked off by Japanese air cover.
But such heroic sacrificial pawns drew off critical Japanese fighter protection from the fleet. In its absence, scores of high-flying Dauntless dive bombers descended unnoticed to blast the Japanese carriers with near impunity.
Americans took chances to win an incredible victory. The Japanese command chose to play it safe, trying not to lose advantages accrued over the prior six months.
Before Midway, the Americans had rarely won a Pacific battle; afterwards, they seldom lost. America’s culture of spontaneity, flexibility, and improvisation helped win the battle; Japanese reliance on rote probably lost it.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:08 pm to stateofplay
kinda cliche WW2 propaganda film but I have always liked the 1943 film Sahara
Posted on 2/26/19 at 7:26 pm to stateofplay
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particularly set early to mid war (1939-1943), Africa
Casablanca
Sahara
Desert Fox
Patton
Big Red One
Rats of Tobruk
These are my favorites.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:07 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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We crushed the Japanese at Midway which occurred only six months after Pearl Harbor which destroyed much of our Fleet.
Like LSU beating Tennessee without Tremont!
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:18 am to Hangover Haven
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Kelly's Heroes
Filmed in Ugoslavia because their military was still using both American and German WWII tanks and vehicles in 1968.
Also had scenes deleted that would've made it more of a bawdy comedy (half naked women and women sleeping with the characters in a few cut scenes).
Posted on 2/27/19 at 11:20 am to stateofplay
Playing for Time
Hell in the Pacific
Hell in the Pacific
Posted on 2/27/19 at 11:47 am to stateofplay
Where Eagles Dare is one of my favorites. Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood and a host of other great actors. Must see for WWII movie fans.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 2:23 pm to TechBullDawg
Stalag 17 with William Holden
The Dawns Here Are Quiet (about Russian women in a remote Soviet outpost)
The Dawns Here Are Quiet (about Russian women in a remote Soviet outpost)
Posted on 2/27/19 at 11:46 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
12 O'clock High
Battle of The Bulge (historically has alot of faults, but also alot of truths as well, not to mention Robert Shaw playing a German colonel is one of the finest acting roles you will ever see )
One that will hit you in the nads is "A Midnight Clear"
"When Trumpets Fade" is another that is overlooked by many but a gritty account of the horror of the war
Battle of The Bulge (historically has alot of faults, but also alot of truths as well, not to mention Robert Shaw playing a German colonel is one of the finest acting roles you will ever see )
One that will hit you in the nads is "A Midnight Clear"
"When Trumpets Fade" is another that is overlooked by many but a gritty account of the horror of the war
This post was edited on 2/27/19 at 11:50 pm
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