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re: Can Someone Explain Why Diversity Makes a Movie Bad?

Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:58 am to
I will give you that one. They could have easily had Ackbar survive and had him sacrifice himself.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:58 am to
It had nothing to do with evil white men

It was just a basic copy and paste anti war story
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:58 am to
How do you know? You have x-ray vision through those helmets?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 10:59 am to
Poe doesn’t save anyone or do anything in the movie

He’s inconsequential to the conclusion

So is Finn, Poe and leia

Total screen time for these inconsequential, uninteresting and poorly written characters? At least dern did something in the movie even if it was just driving a ship into a ship

Could’ve had anyone do that
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:00 am to
Poe led the initial bombing run and learned a lesson in how to be a leader.

Leia taught him that lesson.

Finn was entirely useless this film.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:08 am to
Poe lead them out of the cave
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:10 am to
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honestly don't even notice this stuff


You didn't notice Finn was black and Rey was a woman? Are you autistic?

This shite doesn't bother anyone but the most fringe retards. The problem with TLJ is the movie sucked arse. It has nothing to do with the cast. In fact it's even more infuriating because Daisy Ridley is a legitimately good actress.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:11 am to
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Why does it bother you that Finn is black?
It doesn’t. He is just a shitty character.
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Why does it bother you that Rey is female?
It doesn’t. She is the only redeeming aspect of the movies.
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Why does it take away from the story?
It takes away from the story when the focus is on the diversity, not the story.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:21 am to
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Poe doesn’t save anyone or do anything in the movie 


That's not fair. He openly defied Purple Dern and sent the Stormtrooper Janitor and SPCA Escape Pod Guard to go get a guy that betrayed them and led to most of the escape transports getting destroyed and he would have been directly responsible for the extermination of the entire Resistance if Purple Dern didn't valiantly sacrifice her life to save his arse.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:25 am to
A better question is why diversity makes things better.

Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17390 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:26 am to
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Poe lead them out of the cave



Well, he led them to a solid wall of rocks until Rey dropped by to save his arse.

Then, he tried to cockblock Finn on the Millenium Falcon when he and Rey were having a moment.

Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:29 am to
Because diversity for diversity’s sake kind of eliminates the point, wouldn’t you say? No one likes to be beat over the head with something.

You’re approaching this from the viewpoint that we hate the characters because they are of a different race. The characters are garbage and serve no purpose other than to further an agenda.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51546 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:34 am to
Not his fault Rey wants his dick
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31323 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:42 am to
Because it can be part of the story. It just can’t be the only story.

People didn’t hate Ghostbusters because they hate women. They hated Ghostbusters because it was a bad movie that portrayed every man as an incompetent assclown. The climactic battle is literally the girls shooting the male ghost in the Dick.

Want to see how a diverse cast works? Watch Brooklyn 99. The cast has incredible chemistry with each other. And the diverse plots are a part of the story, but are rarely the story. The captain is a gay black man portrayed incredibly by Andre Baugher. And they can make the obvious jokes without fear of reprisal or referendum to make a statement because he’s part of the team and they speak to each other the way friends and family would.

The Last Jedi sacrifices better plots in order to make the message work. I say again what the hell was the reason the female admiral didn’t share her plans with the crew other than to make a statement on Poe? Leia clearly communicated the roles of everyone in the evacuation of Hoth and that worked out really well. Why would she now be so concerned? And let’s not forget that the incredible setup that the ships couldn’t track transports was beyond stupid and directly contradicted by how many times Star Destroyers chased the Falcon. Or how bout the fact the the rebels had to shoot ion cannon blasts to disable the Star Destroyers put in place to blockade the same size transports.

Poe did exactly what Han would’ve done in Empire. The way it played out with Rose and Finn was terribly done but doesn’t take away from the point.

This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:57 am to
You know what's funny to me?


People complain about a female protagonist, a black male lead, or an Asian character in a movie where most of the supporting actors play roles of non-humans. It's laughable......
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83167 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 11:59 am to
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Finn was part of the First Order

That word makes all the difference.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45810 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:02 pm to
I like the fact that the Star Wars tards will tell you it has nothing to do with diversity, and it's just that the characters are bad (Rose and Finn are forgettable characters), and then turn around and bitch about DA LIBERAL AGENDUHH and DA SJW bullshite being shoved down their throat.
Can't even be honest with themselves
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45810 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:03 pm to
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That word makes all the difference.


God Forbid, they made one of only three black guys in the entire Star Wars franchise with more than 10 speaking lines a good guy
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49968 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 12:06 pm to
I'm almost positive Rose and her subplot was just jacklegged in there to get those sweet Chinese ducketts
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83167 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:21 pm to

This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 2:21 pm
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