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re: Cabin in the Woods Discussion (Spoiler-filled)
Posted on 4/14/12 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/14/12 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
You must have been in a pretty empty theater if no one laughed the whole time. Ours was rolling for a good bit of the movie.
Personally I enjoyed the hell out of the movie, even if the previews did spoil a few surprises. I want to go see it again to try and catch all the different monsters.
Personally I enjoyed the hell out of the movie, even if the previews did spoil a few surprises. I want to go see it again to try and catch all the different monsters.
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Posted on 4/14/12 at 1:26 pm to TigerNutwhack
I enjoyed the hell out of the movie. Probably only about 10 other people in the theater and at times I was the only one laughing.
I thought the whole thing with the "ancients" was a little goofy but I think it was probably supposed to be that absurd.
I thought the whole thing with the "ancients" was a little goofy but I think it was probably supposed to be that absurd.
Posted on 4/14/12 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Fun is definitely the right word. It's more consistently amusing rather than laugh-out-loud funny.
I mean, the Japaense school girls' victory and the homicidal unicorn. Worth the price of admission alone.
Before the movie there was a trailer for Oren Peli's crappy, generic looking Chernobyl horror film. The money shot involves a young girl, seen from behind, who slowly begins to turn toward the camera. It was pretty damn funny when Cabin in the Woods recycles nearly the exact shot with the ballerina in the elevator, and our audience seemed to catch it because they were cracking up.
My only quibble is Goddard isn't quite as good at the physical stuff as he is with the characters and visual gags. The action in the movie is sometimes a little incomprehensible and you just kind of wait for it to end (with the exception of the batshit final act). It's not surprsing, since he has a background in television and screenwriting and this is his directorial debut. For the most part, the payoffs in the movie are the setups, as strange as it may sound.
Fanboys are going to go through the final 20 minutes frame by frame, looking for all the cool shite they missed. I noticed they had the rape tree on their whiteboard (ala Evil Dead) which made me lol. Was the line "You can never trust the Swedes!" referring to their recent success with good horror like Let the Right One In? There are tons of fun little throwaway things like that.
It's been compared to Scream by a lot of critics, but it actually reminded me more of Wes Craven's New Nightmare. With a touch of Monsters Inc.
I mean, the Japaense school girls' victory and the homicidal unicorn. Worth the price of admission alone.
Before the movie there was a trailer for Oren Peli's crappy, generic looking Chernobyl horror film. The money shot involves a young girl, seen from behind, who slowly begins to turn toward the camera. It was pretty damn funny when Cabin in the Woods recycles nearly the exact shot with the ballerina in the elevator, and our audience seemed to catch it because they were cracking up.
My only quibble is Goddard isn't quite as good at the physical stuff as he is with the characters and visual gags. The action in the movie is sometimes a little incomprehensible and you just kind of wait for it to end (with the exception of the batshit final act). It's not surprsing, since he has a background in television and screenwriting and this is his directorial debut. For the most part, the payoffs in the movie are the setups, as strange as it may sound.
Fanboys are going to go through the final 20 minutes frame by frame, looking for all the cool shite they missed. I noticed they had the rape tree on their whiteboard (ala Evil Dead) which made me lol. Was the line "You can never trust the Swedes!" referring to their recent success with good horror like Let the Right One In? There are tons of fun little throwaway things like that.
It's been compared to Scream by a lot of critics, but it actually reminded me more of Wes Craven's New Nightmare. With a touch of Monsters Inc.
This post was edited on 4/14/12 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 4/14/12 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
First off, loved the movie. Clever writing, and an interesting premise, not much more needs to be said about that.
Secondly, although I agree PRIMARILY it's not a horror film (it's a comedy/satire), it isn't fantasy either. You should read more Poe and Lovecraft if you think "ancients" aren't horror.
It still functions as a horror though. What are all the scenes in the cabin if not horror scenes. Everything was still about creating a feeling of suspense for the viewer.
First define horror, then we can look at whether or not this is a horror film. If horror's primary purpose is to scarem Well I think there's a whole debate about that for the film, that's exactly what the "ancients" are supposed to do.
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ok so my first comment is that if i had to label that movie, it's a fantasy comedy. it wasn't scary at all. the whole "ancients" angle = fantasy and it (obviously) had a lot of funny moments and parody of horror movies (zenith was saw head, the send up to pinhead)
if i had to describe the movie in a single word it would be "fun" for sure. this was one of the most fun movies i've seen in theaters in a long, long time.
Secondly, although I agree PRIMARILY it's not a horror film (it's a comedy/satire), it isn't fantasy either. You should read more Poe and Lovecraft if you think "ancients" aren't horror.
It still functions as a horror though. What are all the scenes in the cabin if not horror scenes. Everything was still about creating a feeling of suspense for the viewer.
First define horror, then we can look at whether or not this is a horror film. If horror's primary purpose is to scarem Well I think there's a whole debate about that for the film, that's exactly what the "ancients" are supposed to do.
Posted on 4/14/12 at 2:32 pm to smokeswithwolves
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. I noticed they had the rape tree on their whiteboard (ala Evil Dead)
hahahaha i fricking missed that
i want a scree cap of the white board
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"You can never trust the Swedes!" referring to their recent success with good horror like Let the Right One In?
i thought it was a reference to the thing, but they were norweigians
Posted on 4/14/12 at 2:54 pm to Freauxzen
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If horror's primary purpose is to scarem Well I think there's a whole debate about that for the film, that's exactly what the "ancients" are supposed to do.
horror involves more of a direct threat, imho
the ancients were a POSSIBLE looming threat (we didn't know if they would do anything until the whole sacrifice thing didn't work. i was honestly expecting some twist).
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What are all the scenes in the cabin if not horror scenes.
setups
like making out with the wolf. they made it REALLY seem like that wolf was going to come alive and frick her up...but it didn't. it was a tease like the buildup scenes in shaun of the dead or evil dead 2/army of darkness
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Everything was still about creating a feeling of suspense for the viewer.
all drama is about creating suspense when you break it down, though
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You should read more Poe and Lovecraft if you think "ancients" aren't horror.
i still think it's more of a fantasy, with a lot of technology substituted for magic
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Posted on 4/14/12 at 3:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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horror involves more of a direct threat, imho
Keep defining....
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the ancients were a POSSIBLE looming threat
They aren't a possible threat at all, they are threat. In the world of THAT film they exist. There possibility is the fear. In most of Lovecraft's stories, it wasn't the mere appearance of the cthulu (which is basically what Whedon and folks were alluding to), because they never appeared. It was their very existence that was scary.
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setups
Everything before a climax is a setup for that climax. That doesn't mean those scenes don't have a genre of their own.
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like making out with the wolf. they made it REALLY seem like that wolf was going to come alive and frick her up...but it didn't. it was a tease like the buildup scenes in shaun of the dead or evil dead 2/army of darkness
But the zombies were far from teases.
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i still think it's more of a fantasy, with a lot of technology substituted for magic
We probably won't convince each other one way or the other, but fantasy's purpose was not espoused here.
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Posted on 4/14/12 at 4:29 pm to Freauxzen
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They aren't a possible threat at all, they are threat
i am not a man of faith, i suppose
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In the world of THAT film they exist
oh i believe the people believed they were a threat, but i'm just saying that whole thing could have fizzled (it didn't, obviously). i was waiting for that reveal (that the ancients really weren't a big deal), though, to be honest
Posted on 4/14/12 at 5:35 pm to Roofdog
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It's one of the top 5 worst movies i have ever seen.
huge fail here.
Posted on 4/14/12 at 10:42 pm to TotallyTigers
I think there were much deeper undertones to this movie: the problem of evil, free choice raging against manipulation, knowledge setting them free from the system, etc.
It was like Evil Dead meets the Matrix meets the Truman Show meets Porky's
It was like Evil Dead meets the Matrix meets the Truman Show meets Porky's
Posted on 4/14/12 at 10:50 pm to theunknownknight
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It was like Evil Dead meets the Matrix meets the Truman Show meets Porky's
I found it interesting that the guard was named Truman.
Posted on 4/14/12 at 11:47 pm to emoney
Bottom of board, one of the possible monsters is "angry molesting tree"
Posted on 4/15/12 at 12:14 am to Roofdog
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not one person laughed the entire movie, including me.
You didn't laugh at a group of Japanese girls praying away an evil spirit and turning it into a frog, then cheering, all the while the operator cusses them the frick out?
C'mooooon maaaaan
Oh and about the movie being top 5 worst of all time
ETA: anyone think the virgin looked exactly like Erin from the office? Much hotter version of course.
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 12:30 am
Posted on 4/15/12 at 12:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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dude if you didn't laugh at a fricking unicorn showing up out of nowhere to spear some guy you have no soul
This
There where legit funny moments in this movie.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:20 am to theunknownknight
I waited too long to see the movie. You guys made most of my points already. In fact I specifically came to post what Freauzen mentioned about how it still works as a horror movie in Act 2.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 2:14 am to Froman
It was basically movie: the movie
Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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like i said earlier, if a unicorn showing up out of nowhere to spear some guy doesn't make you laugh, you have no soul
the way they changed the music to something really light and happy seeming while the unicorn was spearing him made it even better
Posted on 4/15/12 at 3:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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Sugarplum Fairy
Posted on 4/15/12 at 7:18 am to LSUSaintsHornets
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There where legit funny moments in this movie.
For sure.
The Merman
Japanese girls
Half of stoner guy's lines
Unicorn
The speaker phone incident
And plenty more.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:25 am to SlowFlowPro
I loved it. The entire theater I saw it with laughed and jumped and screamed the whole movie. It was the best theater experience I have had in a long time.
It's a tough movie to classify for sure, but it can't simply be classified as comedy, horror,or fantasy. It is an amalgamation of all three genres, with a bit of conspiracy thriller thrown in for good measure. I think the problem here is that too many are trying to label this one thing or another, but you just can't do this with Cabin in the Woods.
The comedy is obvious... the guys in the control room, the horror conventions being made fun of. But it is without a doubt a horror film. Those kids and their experience was real, even though the nightmares were all manufactured. The last half hour (maybe the best half hour of a horror film I've ever seen) was insane. The agency was being destroyed by it's own creation. My wife was scared to death, as were a lot of the people in the theater. That policewoman blowing her brains out was dark stuff. Then there's the bigger story with the ancient ones... fantasy.
Don't try too hard to analyze this one. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. I don't see how anyone can be disappointed in this if you do. I really can't believe someone could see the trailer for this, want to then see it, and hate it once they do. I had big expectations for it (Whedon and Goddard), knew that it was not what I would expect it to be... but it was both better than I expected and even more not what I expected it to be. Does that make sense?
Just some quick thoughts.
It's a tough movie to classify for sure, but it can't simply be classified as comedy, horror,or fantasy. It is an amalgamation of all three genres, with a bit of conspiracy thriller thrown in for good measure. I think the problem here is that too many are trying to label this one thing or another, but you just can't do this with Cabin in the Woods.
The comedy is obvious... the guys in the control room, the horror conventions being made fun of. But it is without a doubt a horror film. Those kids and their experience was real, even though the nightmares were all manufactured. The last half hour (maybe the best half hour of a horror film I've ever seen) was insane. The agency was being destroyed by it's own creation. My wife was scared to death, as were a lot of the people in the theater. That policewoman blowing her brains out was dark stuff. Then there's the bigger story with the ancient ones... fantasy.
Don't try too hard to analyze this one. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. I don't see how anyone can be disappointed in this if you do. I really can't believe someone could see the trailer for this, want to then see it, and hate it once they do. I had big expectations for it (Whedon and Goddard), knew that it was not what I would expect it to be... but it was both better than I expected and even more not what I expected it to be. Does that make sense?
Just some quick thoughts.
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 8:28 am
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