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re: Book recommendations for non-ASOIAF medieval fantasy?

Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:59 am to
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:59 am to
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6. The Broken Empire - If you like Abercrombie then seriously give this series a look. I have just completed my first read through and was blown away. Tough, gritty, really just a nice story. I would not say it is complete but the author does not have any plans to continue it at this time. Definitely worth a read.

8. Black Company - This is more of a military history in a fantasy setting. Imagine the Bridgeburners from Malazahn get a whole series to themselves. Not as good of course but well worth the read.



For the OP, pretty much just follow what this guy said. I'm not as big on Rothfuss as most, but he's still worth reading, although he may have overtaken Martin as the slowest writer in fantasy.

Like the rec of these two, both old school and newer. I've really enjoyed the broken empire books by Mark Lawrence, and his Red Queen trilogy set in the same world has been excellent so far as well. Basically Joe Abercrombie meets Thundarr the Barbarian, good stuff.

One series that hasn't been mentioned yet that I'd highly recommend is the Faithful and the Fallen series by Jon Gwynne. He's kinda the opposite of Anthony Ryan as well, with each book getting better and better in his series so far, instead of the opposite.

Another great series is Michael J Sullivan's Riyria chronicles. Good fun reads.

Another good gritty read would be the Witcher books by Sapkowski.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 1:02 am
Posted by GammaPro
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 1:30 am to
I would also recommend Wheel of Time. I'm a little surprised that only one other person has mentioned Robin Hobb's assassin trilogy.
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:49 am to
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Malzhan Book of the Fallen - The autobiography of Gus Malzhan's coaching tenure at Auburn


FIFY

Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:12 am to
The Briar King (Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone) Greg Keyes

Wizard's First Rule (Sword of Truth Series) - Terry Goodkind

Try both of these, you will not be disappointed.
Posted by studentsect
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:50 am to
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Assassin series by robin hobb


Was coming to post these. Along with the rest of the Robin Hobb books set in that universe. The Farseer books are great, and I really enjoyed the Liveship and Rainwild books as well.

Also strongly recommend the Sanderson's Mistborn books.

Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:35 am to
Gentleman bastards series.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:41 am to
I bookmarked this thread. I wish I had time to read.
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:27 am to
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1. Malazan Book of the Fallen - This read is a true epic but it throws you into the deep end and never really lets up. Silmarillion type confusion for the unwary reader. My second read through was undoubtedly my best experience in reading Fantasy.


Erikson pulls of some very unique content very well. Having characters hundreds of thousands of years old? They better be some kind of crazy and all are in their own right. The Imass are written so well. The warrens, houses, and holds are a very unique take on magic.

Id recommend the Shannara series to almost anyone looking to get into fantasy. They are quick, easy books. Nothing flashy. Just a bunch of fun.

"He walks through the forest of 1000 trees. Tree #1 has 314 branches and 10257 leaves of a rustic green color, something feels slightly off about this one. Tree #2..." - Wheel of Time

"He walks through the forest." - Shannara
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:40 am to
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The wheel of time by Robert Jordan



Overrated
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:43 am to
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There's like 15 books in the series and literally 8-9 of them could be excised and the story would have been fine.


Exactly. If a series has 8 books that arent needed its overrated. My opinion on WOT is that when its good its great but the lulls are just toooo long.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 9:44 am
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 10:11 am to
Don't really have a ton to say because everyone else has already covered it extremely well but I love this topic so I'll give my two cents.

1. Kingkiller Chronicles by Rothfuss is my absolute favorite fantasy series to date. Very different from ASOIAF in many respects, but mainly in that it worldbuilds through one character's perspective and not 30 people's. Also more concerned with "everyday" life than any other fantasy series I've come across, but in an extremely fun way. He does seem to be falling into a George RR pattern though in regards to taking forever to right the third book, and shoehorning himself into finishing in a certain amount of books even though narratively it seems like it should be at least two more.

2. Wheel of Time-As everyone else has said, my first real foray into high fantasy. When we were waiting for the books to come out it really seemed like books 8-10 were realllllly slow, but now that they're all out upon rereads I would say only 9-10 are really that bad. Even 9 has a lot good moments. There's no explicit sex or gore I suppose, but I wouldn't really call it juvenile or cartoonish as some people have. Just more in the Tolkien vein than the Martin vein. But so many great characters, Mat Cauthon is a legend, a super rich world with a rich and developed in world history just like ASOIAF. Much more magic based but with a very logical and easy to follow magic system for the most part.

3. Gentlemen Bastards-Basically the Ocean's movies set in a Renaissance world. And I mean that in the best way. Think it suffers from the worst magic system and the worst world building of the these three series, but again the sort of con artist/thief background of all the stories is really unique and really fun.

4. As someone else mentioned, if you like Medieval Fiction with a touch of fantasy as opposed to straight up High Fantasy then you can't go wrong with Bernard Cornwell, particularly his Saxon Stories and Arthurian Trilogy. Both would probably be classified as historical fiction, but the Arthurian trilogy especially have some fun Druid/Merlin/prophecy stuff that's definitely not purely historical.

5. I've personally never read Weeks or Sanderson's stuff, except his finished GoT, but I have friends who've read them and have really enjoyed them. They also both have finished series, as well as having reputations for fast workers compared to the first three guys I listed. So you're likely not going to wait 5 years for a book if you get into their series.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 10:15 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 10:13 am to
If you're into Star Wars, the expanded universe is pretty legit. The Darth Bane series has been really good for me so far, I've read 2/3 of the books

Robert Jordan massive series "The Wheel of Time" is really good, however it's incredibly long, and the books are really expensive bc several are still in hard-back only versions

I've heard the Dune series is good too, and that's probably my next read if I leave the Star Wars expanded universe
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 11:45 am to
You might also like the Empire Trilogy by Raymond Feist and Janny Wurts. It has a lot of the political maneuvering of ASOIAF and is set in a sort of feudal Japan.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:18 pm to
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I've heard the Dune series is good too, and that's probably my next read if I leave the Star Wars expanded universe


Dune is a great series, but only through the first three books.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8599 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 4:07 pm to
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I'm a little surprised that only one other person has mentioned Robin Hobb's assassin trilogy.


That series is solid, but it's just not going to make a top 5 or top 10 recommendation list for most people who have read a bunch of fantasy. She's a good author (outside of that one terrible series), just not really someone I would suggest unless the person had read most of the other suggestions in this thread. Pretty much the same thing for Wheel of Time.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 4:09 pm to
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Dune is a great series, but only through the first three books.


I actually enjoyed the last two much more than three myself. But the first book is a classic for sure regardless.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:03 pm to
The Imager Portfolio Series



It's a refreshing new take on magic using. Spans centuries. Nine books so far, one more coming in October, another in 2017. Each 1-3 books in the series centers on a character in a particular period though.

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Imager is the beginning of a whole new fantasy in a whole new magical world from the bestselling creator of Recluce. Although Rhennthyl is the son of a leading wool merchant in L'Excelsis, the capital of Solidar, the most powerful nation on Terahnar, he has spent years becoming a journeyman artist and is skilled and diligent enough to be considered for the status of master artisan--in another two years. Then, in a single moment, his entire life is transformed when his master patron is killed in a flash fire, and Rhenn discovers he is an imager--one of the few in the entire world of Terahnar who can visualize things and make them real.

He must leave his family and join the Collegium of Imagisle. Imagers live separately from the rest of society because of their abilities (they can do accidental magic even while asleep), and because they are both feared and vulnerable. In this new life, Rhenn discovers that all too many of the "truths" he knew were nothing of the sort. Every day brings a new threat to his life. He makes a powerful enemy while righting a wrong, and begins to learn to do magic in secret. Imager is the innovative and enchanting opening of an involving new fantasy story.


Here is a link to Amazon

This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:04 pm to
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I actually enjoyed the last two much more than three myself. But the first book is a classic for sure regardless.


I'm aassuming you mean Heretics and Chapter House? I'm on board with you here. God Emperor is awesome too. I love the last 3. They get so philosophical, and I love the take on prescience. So incredibly unique. I thought Erikson could challenge Herbert for my favorite after early Malazan, but he didn't finish as strong for me. The "last 2" written by the son are OK, but they don't belong in the series. It's at least fun to know Herbert's direction.

Dune 1-6 is GOAT for me.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:12 pm to
Really? I got hung up on the fourth book and couldn't finish.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8599 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 7:48 pm to
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Really? I got hung up on the fourth book and couldn't finish.


I can understand that. Book 4 is the worst by far for me, though some people like that one the best of the bunch. Gets too bogged down in philosophy for my tastes. But books 5 and 6 are probably my favorites after book 1, though I enjoy 2 and 3 as well. It's too bad he died before he could finish what he had planned out.

You wouldn't really need to read 4 all the way through to enjoy 5 and 6 anyway, you could just do a synopsis of what happens at the end of God Emperor of Dune and go from there.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 7:52 pm
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