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Bob Iger: George Lucas was disappointed with The Force Awakens
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:51 pm
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Disney CEO Bob Iger has now given an inside look at the controversy. He's published a tell-all book, The Ride of a Lifetime: Lessons Learned From 15 Years As CEO Of The Walt Disney Company. According to Iger, those early years were quite difficult. Lucas was struggling to let go of Star Wars, and felt personally let down because Lucasfilm didn't develop his own ideas for the Sequel Trilogy. That built to a head when he saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
Just prior to the global release, Kathy screened The Force Awakens for George. He didn’t hide his disappointment. "There’s nothing new," he said. In each of the films in the original trilogy, it was important to him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters, and new technologies. In this one, he said, "There weren’t enough visual or technical leaps forward."
This is a common criticism of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and Iger concedes that Lucas had a point. For all that's the case, however, he still believes it was essential in order to persuade fans to stick with Star Wars. This first film had to serve as a bridge between the Lucas and the Disney eras. The visual style, the thematic nods, even the basic plot structure was intended to appeal to nostalgia. "George was criticizing us for the very thing we were trying to do," Iger observes, and it's not difficult to read a note of irritation in that comment. While Iger does feel Disney made mistakes - he acknowledges they rushed Star Wars, for example - in this case he believes they made the right call.
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:54 pm to Bench McElroy
I wish Star Wars would just go away.
For years we all wanted it to come back and then the prequels came out.
Be careful what you wish for.
Now it's just an unmitigated disaster of a franchise that makes no fricking sense anymore.
For years we all wanted it to come back and then the prequels came out.
Be careful what you wish for.
Now it's just an unmitigated disaster of a franchise that makes no fricking sense anymore.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 9:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Honestly I just wanted the universe Lucas created to be explored more. It's want I'm so excited for The Mandalorian
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:15 pm to Bench McElroy
Lucas has good ideas.
They fricked up by not letting him be involved. He’s not a good director and a pretty shite writer but he has good ideas and has good plans for stories like big picture ideas. That’s what they should have let him do. They should have let him plan out the three movies and then let JJ and Kasdan write all three, forming a complete, coherent narrative
They fricked up by not letting him be involved. He’s not a good director and a pretty shite writer but he has good ideas and has good plans for stories like big picture ideas. That’s what they should have let him do. They should have let him plan out the three movies and then let JJ and Kasdan write all three, forming a complete, coherent narrative
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:27 pm to Bench McElroy
Star wars is dead. It was amazing for the late 70's-early 80's for sci-fi but it truly ended with ROTJ.
Americans were fascinated with space and our space program during that time. Star Wars played upon that.
That time has passed us by. RIP Star Wars. Thanks for the memories.
Americans were fascinated with space and our space program during that time. Star Wars played upon that.
That time has passed us by. RIP Star Wars. Thanks for the memories.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:28 pm to Bench McElroy
He wasn’t the only one
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:33 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
Just prior to the global release, Kathy screened The Force Awakens for George. He didn’t hide his disappointment. "There’s nothing new," he said. In each of the films in the original trilogy, it was important to him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters, and new technologies. In this one, he said, "There weren’t enough visual or technical leaps forward."
As pissed as I was at him over the prequels, I can't really argue against him here.
TFA didn't really do much new but it wasn't horrible. It set up what I thought (at the time) would be a pretty decent trilogy.
TLJ shite on that. I get changing it up and in most cases I'm cool with it but TLJ did so much weird shite just for the sake of being different. A franchise like SW has a formula and it probably should stick to that for the most part. Let the spin-offs and such do their own thing but keep the main movies in that vein.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:35 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:This is why KOTOR, etc is so good. Explore it.
Honestly I just wanted the universe Lucas created to be explored more. It's want I'm so excited for The Mandalorian
I will Disney for the Mandalorian and the Obi Wan too for sure.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:49 pm to Bench McElroy
Also, Lucas cannot legally say anything disparaging about the newest movies. I would bet a lot he thinks it's a disaster.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:17 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I wish Star Wars would just go away.
For years we all wanted it to come back and then the prequels came out.
Be careful what you wish for.
The prequels are fricking amazing. Yes, they have some stupid shite, but so did the Original Trilogy.
Lucas should've done the story for the sequel trilogy.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:07 am to Bench McElroy
What did Lucas have planned for the sequels story wise?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:20 am to hg
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What did Lucas have planned for the sequels story wise?
I doubt we'll ever know because of his agreement with Disney when he sold the rights.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 12:40 am to Parmen
I agree. The sequels will never amount to the greatness of the OT and PT. No matter how good IX is this December.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 6:17 am to Oxford Ways
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They should have let him plan out the three movies and then let JJ and Kasdan write all three, forming a complete, coherent narrative
It boggles my mind that Disney didn't have the same director and writing team pinned for all three films. How are you suppose to form a coherent story if you're shuffling the creative team with every film? They thought Kathleen could bridge all three films together. Kathleen's answer to this problem was to make the first film as cookie cutter and basic as possible so the future writers could come in and do whatever.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 6:20 am to Ssubba
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It boggles my mind that Disney didn't have the same director and writing team pinned for all three films. How are you suppose to form a coherent story if you're shuffling the creative team with every film? They thought Kathleen could bridge all three films together. Kathleen's answer to this problem was to make the first film as cookie cutter and basic as possible so the future writers could come in and do whatever.
and in the next installment, the director literally rips apart the entire SW mythos to "deconstruct" the series
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Sadly this is what the current trilogy will be remembered for. 
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 7:02 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:18 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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For years we all wanted it to come back and then the prequels came out
I know the prequels get alot of hate. And much of it is deserved, but 11 year old me absolutely loved TPM. I had the posters on my walls and all the toys and its what sparked my love of Star Wars. I'll still watch that and Revenge when they're on. I'll put on Clone Wars if I'm having trouble sleeping.
The prequels also gave birth to the Animated Clone Wars Series which is awesome and absolutely perfect. It's full of new and fleshed out characters and stories and places. It's fantastic.
Rogue One is great.
Rebels is great.
The Mandalorian series is set up to be good we'll see.
The Force Awakens wasn't terrible. It's such a shame. It was basically a soft reboot for the Star Wars universe and it was well received and set up great. And then Rian Johnson took a shite on the entire star wars fan base, re-wrote the laws and boundaries of its mythos, and tore apart everything about it. frick that dude.
TLJ was so bad it killed alot of people's love for the entire Star Wars Universe. And it was absolutely as bad if not worse than we all say it is.
But that doesn't mean all of Star Wars should go away. There's plenty of good still out there. And hopefully they literally retcon all of TLJ out of existence.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 7:24 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:46 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Be careful what you wish for.
Amen and amen.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:16 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
"There’s nothing new," he said. In each of the films in the original trilogy, it was important to him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters
100% true
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In this one, he said, "There weren’t enough visual or technical leaps forward."
And this is why he is a shitty director. Good movies require good stories, good writing and good characters.
special effects can make a good movie great but they aren’t an excuse to make shifty movies. See Mr. plinkets review.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:22 am to habanos
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Star wars is dead.
I don't know if it's dead, but certainly on life support. I fully expect Disney to kill as they get farther and farther away from the original mythology to appease the SJW's need to frick everything up.
The one last chance Star Wars has is the plan to make Knights of the Old Republic in the a trilogy. If they stick to original storyline it will be a homerun.
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