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re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th

Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:48 pm to
Michie is an old school BB player
You play to win the game

Nicole and Cliff are idiots
Logic dictates there are two couples, only three make it to the end. They had the chance to assure their couple made it the farthest and they blew it. Cliff deserves to get voted out.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:10 am to
I know sometimes there are bitter juries because people feel betrayed. The thing I don’t get is, that doesn’t really fit in this situation with Michie.

He’s been the biggest target in the house fighting to stay in the game for a long time. His alliance turned on him, not the other way around. He stupidly kept his word to his biggest threat and person who most hated him on a personal level(Christie).

He’s won the most comps. He’s played the best game. It’s not like dude was out here being shady and hardcore betraying people. If this jury is bitter, it has more to do with them being idiots cause Michie’s game definitely doesn’t deserve a bitter jury.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24520 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:13 am to
Jackson repeatedly broke rules and was never punished. In fact they ended have nots to accommodate him and his eating habits/disorder.

I can’t root for him to win.

When it comes to jury no way does Jackson get Tommy’s vote, imo. Same with Christie or Cliff. That puts him Jack/Anallice/Jess away from losing. If they evict Nicole, is she voting for the guy who stabbed her/Cliff in the back?

I’d be surprised if Jackson won at this point.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 6:18 am
Posted by NfamousPanda
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:43 am to
Nicole has know what's up for a while now, but continually trusts Cliffs decision making, which is baffling. So frustrating to watch her figure out everything that's going on behind her back then turn around and do the opposite of what she thinks is the right call because she trusts someone elses decision making over her own.

As much as I hate Michie, he deserves to win at this point.
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:48 am to
Not that I'm not saying anything not previously discussed but looking back on it, you have to keep Tommy and cut Holly at five.

He serves as a foil for Jackson so even if Jackson wins the veto, he's going to eliminate Tommy (and vice versa should Tommy have won the veto). So... we know one of Jackson and Tommy would be gone. We also know one of those would have won part one of the final HOH competition. The good news? Only Cliff and Nicole would be left to compete in part two. Guarantees one of them makes it to part three which is essentially a coin flip based on the questions.

They went from having a 50% chance of both being in the final (assuming they take each other, which I think was safe to assume) and near 100% chance of one being in the final to opening themselves up to both being eliminated prior to the final two (because Holly can win pt 1 and Jackson will be the favorite in pt 2).

Yes, Tommy is the most likely winner if you get to the end, but we've seen the questions in the final HOH trip dominant contestants up before (Vanessa in 17, Derrick in 16).

In the moment I thought getting rid of Tommy might be better for Cliff's game because Jackson would take him over Nicole to the final three; but really once Nicole won HOH that sliver disappeared.
Posted by brett408
Member since Jan 2005
2426 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:47 am to
Cliff may well go down as the dumbest player in BB history. He is a smart guy and I like him, but he is horrible at this game.

I think he just wants to appease Michie, because he was the kid in high school that got bullied and now the jock type “likes” him. It is sad to watch.

One thing is for sure,... cliff’s wife is going to beat him when he gets home over this.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1779 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:25 am to
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I think Jack, Tommy, Nick and Cliff will ultimately vote for Michie. I think the rest, which includes all females, will vote Holly. The only potential crossover votes would be Christie and Kat. I also could see Cliff voting Holly. I think Tommy respects the game and Jack wants to make up for screwing over Jackson. Christie wasn’t put out on Jackson’s HOH and can get over it.




I wouldn't count on Kat's vote for Michie. I watched one of the dumb big brother insta stories with the jury members over the weekend and in the last frame there is a short video of Kat ripping the head off of her Michie stick figure. Pretty sure shes still holding a grudge.
Posted by joe68
Hamilton ,MT
Member since Sep 2003
2772 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:53 am to
He is gullible and a idiot!!! He is the worst player ever on big brother
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:20 pm to
I hated Derrick when he said, “we control the house not production”.
But i bet Jackson loved it.

Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24520 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:33 pm to
It's funny you say that.

Jackson grabbed the rule book yesterday and was seeing if there was any way that Nicole could forfeit her HOH so they could take Cliff to final three over her.
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
348 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:01 pm to
What a boring finale this will be if it does end up being Michie and Holly in F2. Even if the jury turned on Michie, it wouldn't be near as enjoyable seeing Holly win as a result of a bitter jury, as it would to see Nicole win. Holly winning BB would be a complete joke.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
1618 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:33 pm to
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He serves as a foil for Jackson so even if Jackson wins the veto, he's going to eliminate Tommy


Didn't Jackson say he would have targeted Nicole / Cliff instead of Tommy had they voted out Holly?
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7492 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:00 pm to
Have they shown the jury at all? How do they feel about Jackson
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
829 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:41 pm to
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Cliff may well go down as the dumbest player in BB history

You must have a bad memory, he is no where close to the dumbest player in BB history. He is not even close to the dumbest player this season, that belongs to Jess. Her exit interview lowered everyone's IQ just from hearing it.
Posted by tk for tu juan
Houston
Member since Mar 2019
829 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

Have they shown the jury at all? How do they feel about Jackson

They had a segment on the jury house with Anallice and Nick entering the house to show Jack and Kat how they were evicted. This Thursday we probably get to see a segment on Jess, Christie, and Tommy entering the house.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:37 am to
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Cliff may well go down as the dumbest player in BB history.


Do you even Foutte, bro
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24520 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:49 am to
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1779 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 4:28 pm to
I still think Jess is the dumbest player, especially in the past few seasons. She made every bad decision she could possibly make when it came to game strategy. It was funny to watch her own people pull their hair out when she had any opportunity to try and help herself or her "alliance"
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3506 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 5:50 pm to
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Cliff may well go down as the dumbest player in BB history.


Marcellus says “Hey.”
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24520 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:06 am to
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Cliff said he plans to tell Jackson that if it came down to Jackson & Holly in the final 2, the person who honored a promise would get his vote instead of the person who didn't honor it. He'll also campaign against him in jury.
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