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re: Best explaination of TDKR
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
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+1 I love how the Hulk, in the ship scene, can't control himself and starts going after Black Widow, then in the final battle he's got it all under control and is able to fight alongside the others
He's not all angry and stuff when he shows up on his moped, duh!
Oh wait, he said he's always angry which, contrary to everything we know about the Hulk, somehow allows him to keep everything under control.
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Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:20 pm to ATLTiger
Nope, so the writers could have Loki talk to the avengers without it being a fight. Lets remake raiders, Belloc is intentionally captured so he and Indy can talk about the ark
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:38 pm to DelU249
Which movie was held to a higher standard?
Which movie met the standard?
I know one thing, I honestly almost walked out of TDKR because of it's sheer stupidity masquerading as "genius". Never has a smart edgy movie trying to convey deeper meaning been so retarded. TDKR was trying to be MORE than a comic book movie and ended up being shite (I loved the first two btw).
The Avengers set out with no pretense. It set out to be PRECISELY a comic book movie.
Ergo, the Avengers win.
Which movie met the standard?
I know one thing, I honestly almost walked out of TDKR because of it's sheer stupidity masquerading as "genius". Never has a smart edgy movie trying to convey deeper meaning been so retarded. TDKR was trying to be MORE than a comic book movie and ended up being shite (I loved the first two btw).
The Avengers set out with no pretense. It set out to be PRECISELY a comic book movie.
Ergo, the Avengers win.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:40 pm to theunknownknight
Freddy got fingered set out to be a silly stupid and gross movie
Freddie got fingered > TDKR
I don't give a shite about the aspirations of the director.
Freddie got fingered > TDKR
I don't give a shite about the aspirations of the director.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:44 pm to DelU249
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I don't give a shite about the aspirations of the director.
And that's why you suck at movie reviews. You can't grasp the concept of the scope, purpose, and thesis of a movie.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 2:47 pm to theunknownknight
Because in the end they don't fricking matter unless they stray from the tone. Like if TDKR started having gag humor then I would talk about what the purpose and tone of the movie was.
This post was edited on 4/20/13 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 4/20/13 at 3:13 pm to theunknownknight
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And that's why you suck at movie reviews. You can't grasp the concept of the scope, purpose, and thesis of a movie.
According to your logic if I set out to film one of the many ducks that like to fly over my house and shite on everything they see and I succeed, I get the shot, then my film of a duck shitting in mid-air is now better than TDKR.
What the hell have you been smoking?
Posted on 4/20/13 at 3:22 pm to DelU249
quote:I disagree. TDKR was a bad movie. Not a terrible movie, but it wasn't a good movie.
I have plenty of issues with TDKR and as I've said the business in the second fight is bad but a pothole only bothers me when it is a major plot device. it's a good movie.
quote:Not a good movie either. It is as mindless as it is action-y.
the avengers
The reason it gets so much praise is because they did something with a franchise that hadn't been done previously. They took multiple different characters and stories from multiple different movies and then tied them all together in one over the top action fest that was somewhat enjoyable despite it not being very good.
quote:Well, his whole plan was to have the hulk destroy SHIELD and hopefully kill the rest, or at least some, of the Avengers. It is quite obvious what his plan was.
loki's plan to be apprehended by the avengers makes no fricking sense and is ultimately pointless to the conclusion of the film because it's the same fricking thing either way.
You seem to be forgetting that it is a comic book movie and Loki follows the basic villain stereotype.
quote:As I said before, this movie was bad and takes everything from the other Batman movies and basically throws it out the window.
TDKR
It is understandable why TDKR was so bad though. The story had to be completely rewritten after the death of Heath Ledger.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 3:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:Tsk tsk.
+1 I love how the Hulk, in the ship scene, can't control himself and starts going after Black Widow, then in the final battle he's got it all under control and is able to fight alongside the others
How much do you know about the actual Hulk character? It isn't like a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type situation.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 3:28 pm to Scruffy
If you do t like TDKR and the avengers, fine
Makes sense
The thing I like about it is that the consequences of TDK are present and felt, unlike ROTJ
For me, it's good, but nowhere near TDK. I totally get why some people don't like it until they tell me they loved the avengers. The element of practicality is missing
Makes sense
The thing I like about it is that the consequences of TDK are present and felt, unlike ROTJ
For me, it's good, but nowhere near TDK. I totally get why some people don't like it until they tell me they loved the avengers. The element of practicality is missing
Posted on 4/20/13 at 3:51 pm to DelU249
Having problems with TDKR is fine, I have some myself. Just don't sit there trying to argue that The Avengers is a better movie in any way, shape, or form.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 5:24 pm to Scruffy
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I have plenty of issues with TDKR and as I've said the business in the second fight is bad but a pothole only bothers me when it is a major plot device. it's a good movie.
I disagree. TDKR was a bad movie. Not a terrible movie, but it wasn't a good movie.
TDKR wasn't a bad movie, I found it entertaining as a whole but it was a very frustrating movie that annoyed the heck out of me because people made it out to be more satisfying than it was.
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The reason it gets so much praise is because they did something with a franchise that hadn't been done previously. They took multiple different characters and stories from multiple different movies and then tied them all together in one over the top action fest that was somewhat enjoyable despite it not being very good.
The Avengers was a popcorn movie but it did a surprisingly good job of making effective use of screen time to touch on each character with limited screen time. Bane and Talia had more screen time than the Hulk and were less interesting characters (in spite of how great I thought Tom Hardy was as a physical presence).
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TDKR
As I said before, this movie was bad and takes everything from the other Batman movies and basically throws it out the window.
yeah, I don't think it was a bad movie but it is a really frustrating movie.
TDKR is the Revenge of the Jedi for the Batman franchise
Posted on 4/20/13 at 7:53 pm to DelU249
Honestly, I love TDKR and The Avengers and I thought they both accomplished what they set out to do. Both are good movies.
Yeah, I'm that guy in this thread that fricking loves both movies.
It seems like there's a ton of people that hate one movie and love the other.
Yeah, I'm that guy in this thread that fricking loves both movies.
It seems like there's a ton of people that hate one movie and love the other.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 7:57 pm to Sentrius
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It seems like there's a ton of people that hate one movie and love the other.
JMO there are a lot of people who loved TDKR and are just aggravated it took so much criticism.
And they start threads about it
Posted on 4/20/13 at 8:29 pm to molsusports
quote:Well, as a future doctor, I'm going to write them a prescription for 25 punches to the lower back 3x daily.
JMO there are a lot of people who loved TDKR and are just aggravated it took so much criticism.
If it can fix a dislocated vertebrae, it should be able to fix butthurt too.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 8:36 pm to molsusports
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TDKR is the Revenge of the Jedi for the Batman franchise
TDKR >>>>>>>>>>> ROTJ
Posted on 4/20/13 at 8:48 pm to Scruffy
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If it can fix a dislocated vertebrae, it should be able to fix butthurt too.
Well then, find a classmate and get over ME3.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 8:54 pm to Tom288
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Well then, find a classmate and get over ME3.
Touche, sir. Touche.
Posted on 4/20/13 at 11:13 pm to Antonio Moss
TDKR's problem, aside from some narrative issues, and the feeling that I would've loved to have seen what ended up on the cutting room floor/what the story would've been had Ledger not died...is the fact that it's a really good comic book movie. The problem was that BB and TDK were awesome movies.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 7:47 am to DelU249
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TDKR has problems but really minor. TDK = great. TDKR = pretty good. Avengers = my dog's poo
The "court" scene in TDKR was cheesier, worse, more ridiculous, more annoying, and way more implausible than anything in the Avengers. That was shades of Schumacher right there.
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