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re: Ben Hur Expected to be a MASSIVE Flop
Posted on 8/20/16 at 10:53 pm to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 8/20/16 at 10:53 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:They appear to be trying to one up each other for stupid ideas.
Why would they remake this?
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Posted on 8/20/16 at 11:22 pm to Scruffy
Jeniq-ur
Posted on 8/20/16 at 11:49 pm to SG_Geaux
This is what Hollywood deserves for trying to remake classic Charlton Heston movies.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 12:38 am to Jack Ruby
Movies in 2016 are sucking major c*ck.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 1:17 am to OMLandshark
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Ben Hur
Meh, didnt captivate me in the trailer...didn't seem "must see"
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Honestly I think the sad part is Kubo is only on track to make 12 million. It's fricking excellent and one of the best movies this year. The effort that went into it is astounding.
It might be great, but I also wasn't sold by the trailer.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 4:42 am to tiger11
My question is...who the hell gave this movie a $100+ budget???? Or even green lit this piece of shite in the first place.
Studio exec: Hey I know what everyone has been clamoring for...A Ben Hur Remake!
Accounting Exec: well, that sounds like a good idea, since the big Tarzan remake was so successful last month!. ... So who are we casting in it.
Studio exec: well we've got a ton of mediocre British, C level TV actors, one is John Huston's grandson, you know the dude with half a face from Boardwalk Empire...oh and Morgan Freeman!
Accounting Exec: oh wow, John Huston's grandson, he's such a HUGE star now...oh and you got that guy nobody liked from RocknRolla ...and Morgan fricking Freeman!!.....Here's $100 million and another $50+ million for an ad campaign!!
Studio exec: Man this is just too easy, now I can redeem myself for John Carter!!
Studio exec: Hey I know what everyone has been clamoring for...A Ben Hur Remake!
Accounting Exec: well, that sounds like a good idea, since the big Tarzan remake was so successful last month!. ... So who are we casting in it.
Studio exec: well we've got a ton of mediocre British, C level TV actors, one is John Huston's grandson, you know the dude with half a face from Boardwalk Empire...oh and Morgan Freeman!
Accounting Exec: oh wow, John Huston's grandson, he's such a HUGE star now...oh and you got that guy nobody liked from RocknRolla ...and Morgan fricking Freeman!!.....Here's $100 million and another $50+ million for an ad campaign!!
Studio exec: Man this is just too easy, now I can redeem myself for John Carter!!
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 4:44 am
Posted on 8/21/16 at 5:12 am to Jack Ruby
Nothing captures the Roman Empire quite like the vintage line: "ARE WE HAVING FUN NOW BROTHER!?"
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:04 am to Jack Ruby
John Carter was awesome.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:22 am to Jack Ruby
https://deadline.com/2016/08/ben-hur-box-office-bomb-faith-based-films-suicide-squad-sausage-party-war-dogs-1201806438/
This movie was produced to appeal to Christians and numerous celebrity pastors were brought on board to shill for it. When I first saw the ads, it struck me that they were not marketing this angle. I guess they were doing so just not to people like me (the only ads I saw were during the olympics).
I think it is an interesting comparison with the Noah flop. I think it bombed in part because religious folks didn't like where it strayed from the Bible and nonreligous people couldn't give a dry fart about the story.
BenHur was always an odd one for me.
This movie was produced to appeal to Christians and numerous celebrity pastors were brought on board to shill for it. When I first saw the ads, it struck me that they were not marketing this angle. I guess they were doing so just not to people like me (the only ads I saw were during the olympics).
I think it is an interesting comparison with the Noah flop. I think it bombed in part because religious folks didn't like where it strayed from the Bible and nonreligous people couldn't give a dry fart about the story.
BenHur was always an odd one for me.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:44 am to dirtsandwich
If they were marketing it as a religious movie they sure fooled me, I saw no hint of it. The only reason I knew it was remotely religious is because I've seen the Heston version with Jesus in it...even that one didn't feel like a "Christian" movie, it's about more chariot races and slavery.
I liked Noah, a lot, but I'll watch anything Aronofsky does and I really enjoy that Old Testament mysticism stuff and don't get offended by a so called straying from the text. Most of that stuff in Noah was from the Book of Enoch, which was banned from the Bible. Plus, Aronofsky was a Jewish Yeshiva student, he studied the Old Testament his whole childhood.
I liked Noah, a lot, but I'll watch anything Aronofsky does and I really enjoy that Old Testament mysticism stuff and don't get offended by a so called straying from the text. Most of that stuff in Noah was from the Book of Enoch, which was banned from the Bible. Plus, Aronofsky was a Jewish Yeshiva student, he studied the Old Testament his whole childhood.
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 6:45 am
Posted on 8/21/16 at 8:15 am to Jack Ruby
Did you see the trailer?
It looks like hot garbage.
It looks like hot garbage.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 8:17 am to lsucoonass
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A black transgendered female
a black gender neutral human with female anatomy in a interracial relationship adopting a tree as a child.
isn't this how everyone lives?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:04 am to Jack Ruby
For some reason, studios still believe remakes are the "safe" option.
You'd think after flops like Ghostbusters, Lone Ranger, and this movie, they'd stop believing that.
You'd think after flops like Ghostbusters, Lone Ranger, and this movie, they'd stop believing that.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:16 am to Hoodoo Man
Studios need to go back to finding risky directors and script writers and giving them full control over there own movies.
All this studio meddling is not helping the industry.
All this studio meddling is not helping the industry.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:21 am to Breesus
quote:It's certainly not helping the DCEU.
All this studio meddling is not helping the industry.
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:29 am to Hoodoo Man
My honest opinion when I saw this trailer was, "Why are they trying to remake Gladiator?" and that was it. And I was also laughing at Morgan in dreads. 
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:30 am to Jack Ruby
Looks like a CGI porn fest.
And not a good one.
Imagine a bunch of 400 lbers.
shudder
And not a good one.
Imagine a bunch of 400 lbers.
shudder
Posted on 8/21/16 at 9:32 am to Breesus
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to finding risky directors and script writers and giving them full control over there own movies.
Know why they even did that in the first place? It was profitable.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:03 am to Jack Ruby
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If they were marketing it as a religious movie they sure fooled me, I saw no hint of it.
What I saw:
1. Morgan Freeman in dreads
2. Tons of CGI
3. People supposedly in Roman times speaking like modern people
4. A movie that was already in it's 2nd remake when Heston's version was made 50 years ago
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 8:04 am
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:09 am to Breesus
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All this studio meddling is not helping the industry.
Have we gone back to the Studio Era, minus the studios' outright ownership of a stable of actors who can't work for other studios?
Remakes and sequels galore and an overabundance of comic book movies speaks to zero risk taking and a crutch-like reliance on supposed "built-in audiences". It seems like, other than Aronofsky and Nolan, if a director wants to make an original non-comedic movie these days, he has to do it through a studio's "independent film" sub-company.
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