re: Bear Grylls or Survivorman?

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what i posted has nothing to do with "knowing anything about" surviving but nice try.

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You really are this ignorant. Let me explain this to you.

You are probably a LSU student or have been a LSU student. That means you've been around the vegetation in the LSU/BR area a pretty good bit. Tell me which of the plants you find around LSU/BR are safe to eat and provide nutrition?

Which are poisonous?

Now imagine yourself stranded in an area where you don't even know the vegetation. Chance of you picking out an edible plant that provides nutrition? Not Good.

What about meat. Do you know how to set a trap? Even if you know how its done, have you ever done it? Do you know where to place the trap? If you are again in an unfamiliar area do you know what size to make the trap? Do you even have the tools and materials to make a trap?

Chances of you being able to trap shite even in an area where you know what is around you are very low.

You know what those two mean? You are going have huge problems with nutrition and nutrition means energy. Energy to continue getting water and the mental clarity to signal in help when it is around you. When you are low on energy you know what is a bad fricking idea? Burning up a metric frickton of energy walking through the wilderness.

Have you ever tried to walk any significant distance over rough terrain? Not a clear forest or a trail, but over the actual terrain is a really unpopulated area? I doubt it. It uses a TON of energy. Energy you can't spare because you don't know what to eat or how to catch something to eat.

Plus how do you know you won't wander farther from safety? You probably don't.

Plus none of this take into account rolled ankles, lack of water, infected cuts, spider bites, scorpion stings, snake bites, or any of the other 400 ways to take your situation from bad to worse when you are blundering through the wilderness without training or adequate energy/focus.

The only time that it would ever make sense to go try to find civilization/safety was if you knew no one was looking for you(highly unlikely) and you had to get there(medical issue).

All in shut the frick up. If you wanna try barehanding a huge cliff while starving without any training be my guest. In the meantime I'll be back near my last known position so the rescuer can get to me in the most timely manner while you are stuck out in BFE with a compound fracture and die because the searchers have no clue where you've wandered off to.

Why does this debate draw us in every time it comes up? The thread gets started by someone new, then the same motherfrickers argue the same points.

I actually watched survivorman last night looking for something I could use, then I realized how fricking stupid that was and went to bed.

The main reason I prefer Survivorman is that the guy is out there alone and on his own. If he breaks a bone or gets mauled by an animal there's no one around to come to his aide. Bear could probably survive on the moon but the safety net he brings with him, in having others around, diminishes the show for me.

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Other than the beacon he can activate at a moment's notice to bring his crew and medical professionals to him.

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Is that true? I didn't know he carried a beacon. But I guess that would be prudent.

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Stroud had a damn rifle

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If Bear had a rifle and Stroud had a rifle, who would "survive" in a fire fight? My money would be on the guy in the special forces.

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-scale the side of a cliff bare handed

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I have never seen Bear do this either. Watch the video clip I linked when Bear scaled down the side of a cliff and you will see the safety harness he uses, along with the safety guy that hooked everything up

I think you guys are arguing different points. Bear Grylls could literally kill Survivorman with or without weapons, but Survivorman's show is more practical for the viewer to use his techniques.

Survivor Man spends a week in the wild with locals and they show him how to survive, then goes back for a week by himself.

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Any time you admit that something he does is staged for ratings and potentially dangerous one should never make this claim

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staged or not, it doesn't change the fact that he does what he does. He just sets the situation up first, and does everything the hard way.

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Even if something goes wrong there is a line of camps up and down the mountain, medics, and other people around to help you out.

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Of course there is help b/c Everest is one of the toughest and most dangerous challenges one can attempt. Even with all the help people are dying on Everest every year.

Summiting Everest is way harder than catching food and building a shelter. You or I have a better chance of surviving in the wilderness than we do trying to climb Everest.

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In the wilderness your biggest challenges are finding food, water and shelter. Not necessarily in that order, which of those does summiting Everest relate to?

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Bear already knows how to find food and shelter! The son of a bitch will eat anything thats edible, and always has a quality shelter.

If he wanted, Bear could kill the snake with a rock, then skin it, and cook it over fire. But you have to admit when he see's a snake and just grabs that bitch, bites its fricking head off, and eats it...thats just badass.

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Which is exactly why YOU SHOULD NEVER DO WHAT HE DOES. You haven't been trained in the same shite he has, you don't have his experience. Trying to emulate him because he's a badass is dumb because we are NOT badasses.

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Dude, I hope one would have enough common sense not to emulate the dangerous stuff he does for the camera like scale cliffs...and I'm pretty sure the average person would probably use a rock when killing snakes for dinner.

The point is, Bear still teaches you about the surroundings, the best way to eat, make shelter ect. ect just like Survivorman. He just adds the crazy shite b/c he IS capable, and its what seperates his show from the others. I just think that with his level of training and accomplishments, that Bear is better suited for all types of survival.

Basically, I pretty much choose Bear b/c he kills rabbits with sticks, and eats leftover Zebra while the Lions watch...instead of some guy carving a stick and playing with a video camera!