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Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:11 pm to athenslife101
I feel good about not seeing the movie and having no desire to ever see it.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:16 pm to Noon the Great
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this x100 and i love the xmen, but they need to be in the MCU
Just no. X-Men's tone just clashes gloriously with the MCU. If Iron Man and Captain America are around, it just really makes both conflicts pointless at large. I really want the X-Men universe to remain it's own thing and separate from the MCU.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:18 pm to strohmile126
Worth a watch for sure. It's not nearly as bad as its RT score.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:39 pm to strohmile126
Watch the extended version.
Don't bother with theatrical version
Don't bother with theatrical version
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:51 pm to OMLandshark
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I really want the X-Men universe to remain it's own thing and separate from the MCU.
Completely agree. Also, there's no chance in hell we would've gotten a Deadpool movie with Disney in charge.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:52 pm to The_Joker
Think of it this way: Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, at the very least, are coming. One or both may be very good. More are very likely already greenlit.
Much like it's worthwhile to go back and watch The Incredible Hulk now that the MCU is rolling (hint- we see characters from that flick in the most recent Marvel release), if you're going to even consider watching these other two films, you should catch BvS.
Truth is, we may not know how good some of these superhero movies are at first glance anymore, since the current trend is to string them together like high-budget episodes of a series. There were parts of Avengers: Age of Ultron that I didn't much care for, or that didn't seem more than random side-plots. I didn't think the movie was nearly the standalone film that the first Avengers movie was.
Iron Man 3 was very much a letdown to me, at the time.
Then after watching Civil War, certain plot elements kinda nagged at me. I rewatched IM3 and AoU, and you could definitely tell there were clear storyline progressions. Taken as a whole, the 3 movies together, along with Captain America TWS and the rest of the Marvel films, were better than any 1 individual one. You can throw Ant-Man into that mix too, because if you skipped it because it looked too silly, you'd have been blindsided in CW by his abilities.
We may or may not see the same progression in the DC films, but I expect we will. Random throwaway lines from BvS might be big easter eggs in later films.
Much like it's worthwhile to go back and watch The Incredible Hulk now that the MCU is rolling (hint- we see characters from that flick in the most recent Marvel release), if you're going to even consider watching these other two films, you should catch BvS.
Truth is, we may not know how good some of these superhero movies are at first glance anymore, since the current trend is to string them together like high-budget episodes of a series. There were parts of Avengers: Age of Ultron that I didn't much care for, or that didn't seem more than random side-plots. I didn't think the movie was nearly the standalone film that the first Avengers movie was.
Iron Man 3 was very much a letdown to me, at the time.
Then after watching Civil War, certain plot elements kinda nagged at me. I rewatched IM3 and AoU, and you could definitely tell there were clear storyline progressions. Taken as a whole, the 3 movies together, along with Captain America TWS and the rest of the Marvel films, were better than any 1 individual one. You can throw Ant-Man into that mix too, because if you skipped it because it looked too silly, you'd have been blindsided in CW by his abilities.
We may or may not see the same progression in the DC films, but I expect we will. Random throwaway lines from BvS might be big easter eggs in later films.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:04 am to strohmile126
It's got plenty wrong with it, but it's not nearly as terrible as some would have you believe. I enjoyed it the same way I enjoyed TDKR or TFA.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:06 am to Scoob
It's funny the way people react (overreact) to things they don't like about this film.
I like the Marvel films, like most of us on here. I've seen them all (I think), and plan to watch the rest. Some were great, some were ok, some were silly. Taken as a whole, they are a great and fun story that runs well together.
Anyone who complains about the plot or villain in BvS, and yet defend Age of Ultron, needs to fess up about being fanboys. AoU gave us Scarlet Witch and Vision, and and it further advanced the overall storyline of the series. Beyond that, it wasn't a great 2 hr stretch of film. Standing alone, the plot was silly, the action was meh, and there was a whole lot of goofy twists that weren't meant to be particularly goofy. For a standalone 2 hr watch, I'd say BvS was a more solid flick. It was way more self-contained, for the most part.
I like the Marvel films, like most of us on here. I've seen them all (I think), and plan to watch the rest. Some were great, some were ok, some were silly. Taken as a whole, they are a great and fun story that runs well together.
Anyone who complains about the plot or villain in BvS, and yet defend Age of Ultron, needs to fess up about being fanboys. AoU gave us Scarlet Witch and Vision, and and it further advanced the overall storyline of the series. Beyond that, it wasn't a great 2 hr stretch of film. Standing alone, the plot was silly, the action was meh, and there was a whole lot of goofy twists that weren't meant to be particularly goofy. For a standalone 2 hr watch, I'd say BvS was a more solid flick. It was way more self-contained, for the most part.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:12 am to Scoob
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some were silly.
Shots fired
Well said, I completely agree. I certainly have my issues with BvS, but it's not much worse than most superhero movies out there. It's so amusing to see people try and prop these films up, they're just dumb, fun, mindless flicks.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:19 am to Scoob
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Anyone who complains about the plot or villain in BvS, and yet defend Age of Ultron, needs to fess up about being fanboys. AoU gave us Scarlet Witch and Vision, and and it further advanced the overall storyline of the series. Beyond that, it wasn't a great 2 hr stretch of film. Standing alone, the plot was silly, the action was meh, and there was a whole lot of goofy twists that weren't meant to be particularly goofy.
I agree with this. Another poor superhero movie.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:00 am to Scoob
I was most aggravated that it got the characters wrong. I look at the two title characters and think "that's not something superman or batman would ever do", that's a problem. All of the characters in the movie are worthless. Not poorly acted, but so poorly drawn and put together it's cringeworthy.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:36 am to strohmile126
Worth the watch.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:45 am to udtiger
it has many flaws, but i dint regret going to see it. i had fun watching it
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:42 am to wildtigercat93
It's terrible, the plot holes are bad but I can overlook that. What I can't overlook is the way they ruined such great characters. Affleck is fine as Batman but he doesn't work as Bruce Wayne. I wish they had chosen Jon Hamm instead. Eisenberg was much worse though and why the movie failed. The reason why Age of Ultron with it's mistakes still worked is because unlike BvS it was fun. Marvel was smart and introduced their 2 main characters on their own but DC was lazy and are in too much of a rush to get the Justice League going.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:12 am to bcoop199
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Affleck is fine as Batman but he doesn't work as Bruce Wayne.
i disagree especially when you say this....
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wish they had chosen Jon Hamm instead.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:27 am to strohmile126
No
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:04 am to strohmile126
Worth the look . . . while folding clothes.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:33 am to Scoob
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It's the first live-action film combining Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. The special effects are top notch, just as good as any Marvel film.
Ben Affleck's Batman is as good as Chris Evans' Captain America or Michael Fassbender's Magneto. Dark, brooding, unhappy with the way the world is, and doing things about it.
Henry Cavill's Superman is as powered up as Chris Hemsworth's Thor, he looks exactly as he should (well, technically minus the red pants), and his relationship with Lois is no worse than, maybe a little better than, Thor's with Jane.
Gal Gadot's Diana Prince is as intriguing as Black Widow undercover, and when she unleashes, is just as impressive as any superhero we've seen on film.
The overall plot is not any more farfetched than CA: Civil War. If anything, we see probably a more realistic angle; the opposition to a superpowered figure is not some super-secret evil organization or forces from another world, it's public and government apprehension about someone who, if he so chooses, can act without consequence.
Both Luthor's and Wayne's motivations are completely believable, and given the immense resources they have (both are right on par with Tony Stark financially, who foots the Avengers' tab), anything that either come up with, is no more outrageous than anything we see from Stark or Xavier.
Nothing from this film is any more far-fetched than watching three flying aircraft carriers lift off from hangers in the Potomac, in the middle of D.C. No plot device is more bizzare than rewriting the Cuban Missile Crisis into an anti-mutant armageddon, or having someone transport RFK Stadium smack-dab onto the White House lawn.
edit to add: nothing in this film is any less believable than some bizarre madman walling off an entire city and taking it hostage with a nuke, or a super-secret agency of assassins plotting mass genocide by unleashing a fear gas and releasing the criminally insane, either.
That's a lot of overly simplified justification for one post. I applaud the bravado to try, but most of that is way off.
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but this is not a movie from a single novel. There are lots of comics with these characters, and some are just like in the film, some are darker, some are lighter.
Well yeah, that's part of the problem, there's no cohesive narrative. It's all a jumbled mess.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:51 am to strohmile126
I think its worth a watch. It's not as bad as a lot of people made it out to be, but its not great either.
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