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re: Barbarian

Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:39 am to
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:39 am to
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I thought it was simply a reference to the old man since a barbarian is someone that doesn't belong to civilized society. But then the director said in an interview that he had to name it something and he just liked the way it sounded. Lol


The director said he wanted to make a horror movie with a social message. Why can't anyone just make a movie to entertain anymore? According to Zach Cregger, there isn't one "barbarian" in the movie, it's the overall concept of the way Tess was treated by the men in the film. Every man in the movie, with the exception of the old black homeless guy, was either a creep or a piece of shite. Even Bill Skarsgard's character gave off a kind of "rapey" vibe and the cops refused to believe Tess when she begged them for help.

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Cregger said that the Mother wasn't the villain. She was a victim.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41915 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:25 am to
Yea, the entire second half of the move took a hard turn, literally if you've seen the movie. At that point it lost me.






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I was fine with Bill Skarsgard's character being what he was, he also came off incredibly nervous in a situation he was actively trying to not come off "rapey" and just failing. Regardless, we watch Tess be very self-conscious about locking doors, keeping her wits about her, not drinking things, clean sheets, etc. However, instead of coming up with a clever way to progress the plot and continue to keep your character intelligent, we just have them drop all their already established traits and become idiots and make idiotic decision after idiotic decision, even after explicitly talking about how the action they end up doing is not the right decision.

The entire Justin Long story added absolutely nothing to the movie. Just an opportunity to put a message forth on rape culture and how shitty guys are. It added nothing to the actual story. Also, how many damn times can they make him drop whatever he is holding at a crucial point?

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Cregger said that the Mother wasn't the villain. She was a victim.


I mean, to be fair she really isn't, the homeless guy even talked about it. The old man is the true villain. the mother is just a byproduct of his evilness and knows nothing else. I get your point though.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15948 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:49 am to
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However, instead of coming up with a clever way to progress the plot and continue to keep your character intelligent, we just have them drop all their already established traits and become idiots and make idiotic decision after idiotic decision, even after explicitly talking about how the action they end up doing is not the right decision.


I thought that Georgina Campbell did a great job and I liked Tess as a character. That said, she was either the bravest or the dumbest woman in horror movie history, going back into that house not once, but twice to attempt to rescue men she barely knew.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41915 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:59 am to
Campbell did a wonderful job I think. She is a very underrated actress.







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Hell, why didn't she just stab the mother repeatedly when she was leaving with the knife? Her back was turned. Just get her in the neck a bunch and save the dude?

Also, how in the world has nobody caught onto what was going on there? They clearly have cages and stuff where they have trapped visitors before. The mother didn't care at all about cleaning out the luggage in the house, so how has the rental company not figured out that missing people reports keep happening at this specific rental location after renters disappear and leave their luggage when the maids come by before the next renters?
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15948 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:09 am to
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Also, how in the world has nobody caught onto what was going on there? They clearly have cages and stuff where they have trapped visitors before. The mother didn't care at all about cleaning out the luggage in the house, so how has the rental company not figured out that missing people reports keep happening at this specific rental location after renters disappear and leave their luggage when the maids come by before the next renters?


I agree. This was a very big plot hole. I guess we're supposed to believe that nobody else who rented the house ever found the door in the basement or any personal items left behind from people who had been abducted and/or killed previously.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73902 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:49 pm to
Watched this today. It's a fun ride while watching. Just don't think too deeply about it after it's over. I admire any movie that tries something different these days and doesn't cater to idiots. In that respect, I appreciated the lack of backstory in the beginning, the narrative jump in the middle, and not simply spelling everything out for the audience.

I will say, though, I'm interested to know if Zach Cregger played Resident Evil 7 before writing the movie. There are so many similarities in terms of character and setting.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20668 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:54 pm to
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Why can't anyone just make a movie to entertain anymore?


There has never been any motion picture that didn’t have a social message
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20668 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 5:56 pm to
September was a good month for “horror.”

I found this movie scary and well done and Pearl was just great. Now I just need to see Beast
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59399 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:00 am to
Watched it last night holy shite .

This movie was fricking wild.

For sure recommend it.
Posted by QC Reb
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2022
208 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:24 am to
I feel like the two acts were separate movies.

The first half was a genuinely creepy and tense horror film that plays on people's very real fear of strangers and uncomfortable situations.

The second half was a campy monster movie that kind of spoofs how dumb people are in horror movies. Justin Long's character finding a murder dungeon in his basement and being more concerned with measuring it so he could list the additional square footage is just hilarious.

Overall the movie was fun and took some unexpected turns that kept me entertained. I didn't find the sexual assault accusation side plot to be preachy as his guilt is never established and it is really just a way to get him to the house.

If there was any preachy message I think it is probably more to do with the cops being so dismissive but in reality Detroit does have a huge problem with mostly abandoned neighborhoods that put a strain on police resources so there is probably some truth to that. Seriously after watching that movie I had to do some research to see if Detroit is really that bad.... it really is that bad.

This movie wasn't a masterpiece by any means but I found it to be a solid horror flick.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15425 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:26 am to
Ridiculous and horrible. That’s all.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
59399 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:39 am to
The transition from the first act to the second act was incredible.

A complete mind frick.

The casting of Bill S. was also genius considering his character in the movie.

The trailer showed nothing of what this movie was actually about.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18035 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:48 am to
Streamed it yesterday. Thought it was pretty good but the hard cuts to different characters were a bit jarring and took me out of the movie.

Although when Justin Long found the hidden room and immediately started measuring and looking into if he could add the room to the houses square footage, that gave me a pretty good chuckle
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76822 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 4:24 pm to
what's the attraction to this movie?. i didn't find it entertaining at all.


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she agrees to stay in a house with some guy she just met? then when it's daylight, she sees what a shite hole area it is, the interview lady told her it wasn't safe yet, she goes back anyway? then after being trapped for who knows how long, she finally gets out and wants to go right back in?

the "mother" being the product of the rapist guy's actions gave her super human power? gets smashed with a car, rips the guy's arm off, dives off the tower and gets up like she fell off the porch? rips aj's head apart?

and tess, gets shot, thrown off the tower, walks away.


and, of course the cops are useless.

this movie stinks
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 4:25 pm
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:35 pm to
WTF did I just watch
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16398 posts
Posted on 10/29/22 at 4:17 pm to
I thought it was a lot of fun, like going to a haunted house atraction. Creepiness, jump scares & lots of laughs. (Btw, The Visit had a similar fun factor, too. If you enjoyed Barbarian, you might get a kick out of The Visit, too.)



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quote:

the "mother" being the product of the rapist guy's actions gave her super human power? gets smashed with a car, rips the guy's arm off, dives off the tower and gets up like she fell off the porch? rips aj's head apart?


It's an unconventional (but fresh) monster/creature horror flick.

Much like when I don't ask for scientific explanations on how a bite from a vampire can suddenly make one immortal, invisible to mirrors, physically morph into a flying bat, gain super human strength, and instantly turn into ashes when exposed to sunlight, I didn't question the supernatural-ness of the creature.

Also, I fully expect a Barbarian 2. It ain't dead. If a car-pin or head-to-cement tower-fall didn't finish her off, a bullet thru the eyeball was only a flesh wound.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16398 posts
Posted on 10/29/22 at 4:31 pm to
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The casting of Bill S. was also genius considering his character in the movie.



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I also liked the casting of the creepy house-owner in the 80s. That dude played the terrifyingly intimidating Imperial General who questioned Mando & Mayfield (Bill Burr) in Mandalorian S2 Ep7. He's a good villain character actor.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73403 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:11 am to
Yep should’ve named it Barborian
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39477 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:20 am to
This movie is just stupid.

Why is she naked? Is she a descendant from The Descent? Why does she have superhuman strength?

I thought when they went back into the past it would be like a "Prisoners" story but then they just drop that and turn it into a monster story with zero explanation.

So some guy raped some girls in the 70s and the offspring was some The Descent creature? Movie had promise until the 2nd Act.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:27 pm to
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the "mother" being the product of the rapist guy's actions gave her super human power? gets smashed with a car, rips the guy's arm off, dives off the tower and gets up like she fell off the porch? rips aj's head apart?


I would assume she has powered flight as well, considering she beat the girl to the ground to save her from getting smashed.
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