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re: Avengers Infinity War Trailer
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:43 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:43 pm to WicKed WayZ
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These movies also need to have consequences, which should include a lot of deaths.
No they don't "need" to.
Oh no Superman is dead. no he isn't
oh no Captain America died in a plane crash. no he didn't.
oh no Groot is dead. no he isn't.
oh no Coulson is dead. no he isn't.
oh no Loki is dead. no he isn't.
Oh no Optimus Prime is dead. no he isn't.
Oh no Professor X is dead. no he isn't.
oh no Jean Grey is dead. no she isn't.
There has only been one death thus far to a character that people cared about a little and that was Yandu. and while that was a very touching moment and all, most people would rather have seen Yandu not die, and be in Infinity War fighting with the GotG.
No one cares that Quicksilver died, and no one would have cared if War Machine would have died.
Sorry two people have died. Yandu and Wolverine. and the only reason Wolverine is dead is b/c what's his name doesn't want to be Wolverine anymore, and he's getting old, but i'd bet money we'll see a new young wolverine on the big screen soon.
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:44 pm to boxcarbarney
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Have you read the Infinity Gauntlet?
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no, and that's my point
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If you haven't read the comic, then your point is, well, pointless.
His point is that the movies shouldn't have to follow the comics but he doesn't read the comics so he doesn't know if the movies follow the comics so from his perspective it really doesn't matter if they follow the comics or not.
Or it's pointless.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:50 pm to boxcarbarney
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If you haven't read the comic, then your point is, well, pointless.
my point is 95% of the audience hasn't read the comic, so when they deviate away from the comics source material, the vast majority of people don't know it.
They are making a movie to make money, both in ticket sales and in merchandise. They aren't making the movie to follow some story from a comic book that may lead them to not maximizing their profits, like by killing their 2nd and 3rd most popular characters for good, both of whom are responsible for this entire MCU being so popular.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:02 pm to TeddyPadillac
the things people catch....
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:17 pm to Cow Drogo
Time trick only gets you so far. You need another force to remove what you are fighting.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:30 pm to TeddyPadillac
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my point is 95% of the audience hasn't read the comic, so when they deviate away from the comics source material, the vast majority of people don't know it.
Your point is "no way they kill any one, and I don't read the comics so I don't care what the source material says"
I'm saying that they can still have impactful deaths in the movie that are resolved by the end of the second movie if they follow the basic framework of the original comic.
Everyone complains that Marvel has a villain problem. Having Thanos off some major characters would help change that perception.
I'll just stop playing coy here and say it:
**SPOILERS FROM THE SOURCE MATERIAL**
Thanos kills the majority of the Marvel Universe in the comics. Almost all of them. All those beloved characters, dead.
They are brought back to life in the end.
So, what I've been saying is that, yes, the movie can murder the frick out of all those popular characters. They can be deader than fried chicken. It would make for an impactful and interesting movie. And guess what? At the end of the story, all those dead arse characters can be brought back to life.
This is the reason why I asked if you'd read the source material; not because I think the movie should be married to it, but to point out that the story can take a dark turn - killing off beloved heroes - yet have them be resurrected in the end.
Get it?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:34 pm to BilJ
thats a nice catch
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:44 pm to TeddyPadillac
This is also being billed as a two part finale.
A lot of contracts run out during these two.
MCU also condenses or only presents the theme of important and well received and not so well received storylines. So while bucky in real time and comic time was dead for half a century.
We got an accelerated reunion and two legitimate heirs to the shield.
A lot of contracts run out during these two.
MCU also condenses or only presents the theme of important and well received and not so well received storylines. So while bucky in real time and comic time was dead for half a century.
We got an accelerated reunion and two legitimate heirs to the shield.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:46 pm to dawgfan24348
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Aditya Sahu 7 minutes ago Wanna know who dies in avengers infinity war: DC (spoiler)? REPLY 24
best comment I've seen on it so far
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:52 pm to dawgfan24348
Get hyped! 
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:56 pm to dawgfan24348
Shall be over the top epic entertainment! Just the trailers alone are! Do we really have to wait until May?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:58 pm to boxcarbarney
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Thanos kills the majority of the Marvel Universe in the comics. Almost all of them. All those beloved characters, dead.
They are brought back to life in the end.
so they didn't die, which is what always happens.
i'm not saying they won't die and come back, i'm saying you aren't going to see the true death of Steve Rogers or Toy Stark. If they die, they'll be back in the next movie, just like Superman just did.
Wasn't Cap supposed to die in Civil War, and Spider-man was supposed to tell everyone he was Peter Parker, what happened to that storyline? and i thought Hank Pym created Ultron, not Tony Stark?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:58 pm to JawjaTigah
This got stickied
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:59 pm to dawgfan24348
May be a dumb question, but who was Scarlet Witch embracing in the trailer?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:01 pm to Breadstick Gun
vision
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:02 pm to The Egg
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The Egg
ahh you're right. He's not red but I paused it and you can see the stone on his forehead.
Also, long haired Cap looks badassssss
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:03 pm to dawgfan24348
Jesus dude. So many years have been leading to this movie. This gave me goosebumps.
A couple of things I noticed:
Thanos looks great. Better than he has in any previous movie. I'm glad they put a lot of money and time into making him look legit.
This looks dark. I'm sure it won't be all dark, but the Russo's have a history of implementing serious elements and finding proper balance with fun and comedy. It will more imperative than ever to get that right with this movie. So many different aspects and characters.
It looks fricking great. I can't wait.
A couple of things I noticed:
Thanos looks great. Better than he has in any previous movie. I'm glad they put a lot of money and time into making him look legit.
This looks dark. I'm sure it won't be all dark, but the Russo's have a history of implementing serious elements and finding proper balance with fun and comedy. It will more imperative than ever to get that right with this movie. So many different aspects and characters.
It looks fricking great. I can't wait.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:03 pm to Breadstick Gun
he's taken on human form, which means they will bang and knock out a kid or two.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
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so they didn't die, which is what always happens.
But they did die. What Thanos did was eventually undone. But they did die.
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i'm not saying they won't die and come back, i'm saying you aren't going to see the true death of Steve Rogers or Toy Stark. If they die, they'll be back in the next movie, just like Superman just did.
Maybe. Maybe not. It would be nice for one of the major heroes to actually die a heroic death and not come back. Probably won't happen, but it would be nice.
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Wasn't Cap supposed to die in Civil War, and Spider-man was supposed to tell everyone he was Peter Parker, what happened to that storyline? and i thought Hank Pym created Ultron, not Tony Stark?
I honestly don't care about that. I don't care if they follow the source material or not. You said people can't die, for whatever reason. I corrected you. That's it.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:27 pm to boxcarbarney
I never said they can't die. Just said they are not going to kill off their cash cows. I don't consider a character dying and coming back to life within an hour of on screen time as "dying".
Quicksilver is dead.
Yandu is dead.
Captain America and Groot aren't dead, but they "died". Their deaths, like Supermans, gave us very little emotion since we know they aren't really dead. Yandu's death gave the audience an emotion.
When y'all are talking about people dying in this movie, i assume you are talking about Quicksilver dying, not Groot dying. No main character is going to Quicksilver die in this movie. there may be minor characters Quicksilver die, and some major characters may Groot die.
I think about Professor X being obliterated by Jean Grey. That happened and you're like, what the hell, then the next sequential movie, Days of Future Past comes out and there's Professor X, no explanation of his death, yet no one cared or questioned it.
Quicksilver is dead.
Yandu is dead.
Captain America and Groot aren't dead, but they "died". Their deaths, like Supermans, gave us very little emotion since we know they aren't really dead. Yandu's death gave the audience an emotion.
When y'all are talking about people dying in this movie, i assume you are talking about Quicksilver dying, not Groot dying. No main character is going to Quicksilver die in this movie. there may be minor characters Quicksilver die, and some major characters may Groot die.
I think about Professor X being obliterated by Jean Grey. That happened and you're like, what the hell, then the next sequential movie, Days of Future Past comes out and there's Professor X, no explanation of his death, yet no one cared or questioned it.
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