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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:34 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:58 am to Starchild
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want him to be this generation’s Darth Vader
Vader and Thanos are fundamentally different and I take offense to that comparison. Thanos is a powerful badass comic villain.
Vader is one the greatest characters ever. From beginning to training to turn to evil to master to redemption.
Thanos doesn't have a character Arc like that. But I do hope he'll be the best villain in the MCU
Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:02 am to BilJ
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what can he do without it?
Tony Stark can jam an arc reactor in his head like a solar powered jewel.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 5:13 am to TeddyPadillac
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oh no Groot is dead. no he isn't.
Man if that "we are groot" scene didn't tug at your heart strings you don't have a heart
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 5:19 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:34 am to LesMiles BFF
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Didn't think of it like that. Fits the narrative for sure.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:39 am to Methuselah
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They can either take a hiatus from those characters, and then bring some other actors in - either as a total re-boot or into the existing universe and hope the audience goes along with the switch.
This is actually the big question, isn't it? After this much time, money and effort spent universe building, do they simply go back to the beginning and recast and start over? Seems unlikely.
I think what they have set up, whether they ever meant to or not, was a system that is basically EVERY character they have is built in the James Bond mold. Eventually, as actors age out or simply want to go do other things, you recast them and move on...but you do it seamlessly while other actors are still in place to ease the transition. Audiences WILL accept it so long as you cast the characters well and the first movie with them is good.
Think about comics. They are super longer soap operas that usually carry a story forward infinitely...not withstanding grand stories like Civil War or Infinity Gauntlet, etc. You don't get a series of 10 year runs and then a reboot of the same story over again drawn slightly different the way people have come to expect superhero movies to do based on the old trilogy model.
Marvel has cracked the code with live action universe building...now they need to get people on board with replacing actors without permanently killing off heroes that will mean the ENTIRE MCU has to be rebooted from scratch. and as difficult as it is to think about replacing some of these people...was everyone on board at first with Evans as Cap, or Hemsworth as Thor?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:46 am to MontyFranklyn
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With comics as source material, how hard is it really create a cinematic universe?
Ask these clowns...
Technically, you're right though. Comics are essentially these wonderfully well done story boards for movies. Stories are there, imagery is there, people already love them, etc. Still baffling to witness just how badly WB/DC has missed the boat on this.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:56 am to GeauxTigerTM
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After this much time, money and effort spent universe building, do they simply go back to the beginning and recast and start over? Seems unlikely.
They'll probably do the same thing the comics do.
Bucky will take over the shield for Cap and someone will run Stark Industries for Tony. Then you bring in a new crop of heroes for them to foster and lead as a team. Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, Spiderman, the Guardians, Daredevil, etc..
There is a plethora of material Marvel can continue with before they either reboot or retcon Tony and Steve back into existence.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:00 am to Breesus
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They'll probably do the same thing the comics do.
Bucky will take over the shield for Cap and someone will run Stark Industries for Tony. Then you bring in a new crop of heroes for them to foster and lead as a team. Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, Spiderman, the Guardians, Daredevil, etc..
There is a plethora of material Marvel can continue with before they either reboot or retcon Tony and Steve back into existence.
Right...I am voting for retcon. I'd hate to think they did all this over what will eventually be 15-20 years and then just hit the RESET button and go back to square one with a fully recast of everyone at once and stating over. I'd much prefer they recast as needed with others stepping forward and taken the mantles for a while and then when they DO come back it's a new actor that can take the character forward for the next1-2 years... Rinse, repeat...
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:01 am to Breesus
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Bucky will take over the shield for Cap and someone will run Stark Industries for Tony. Then you bring in a new crop of heroes for them to foster and lead as a team. Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, Spiderman, the Guardians, Daredevil, etc..
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:02 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Right...I am voting for retcon. I'd hate to think they did all this over what will eventually be 15-20 years and then just hit the RESET button and go back to square one with a fully recast of everyone at once and stating over. I'd much prefer they recast as needed with others stepping forward and taken the mantles for a while and then when they DO come back it's a new actor that can take the character forward for the next1-2 years... Rinse, repeat...
I just ask the MCU to do Steve right and make his absence a part of reality,. a reverse of his origin/early Marvel years.
Do whatever they want as Cap but bring back Evans when he's like 60 for one last go as Cap.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:06 am to Freauxzen
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Do whatever they want as Cap but bring back Evans when he's like 60 for one last go as Cap.
By then they have the Fox properties and do House of M?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:28 am to LesMiles BFF
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My only minor quabble with that is that would mean half the infinity stones somehow found their way to earth.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:35 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Still baffling to witness just how badly WB/DC has missed the boat on this.
When I look at what WB has done with adapted material, it's really a miracle we ever got the Nolan Batman's and Harry Potter done so well.
I guess the trick is for whomever either created the work or is adapting it to get a contract that allows them ironclad control over the finished product like Rowling and Nolan did.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:47 am to Green Chili Tiger
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When I look at what WB has done with adapted material, it's really a miracle we ever got the Nolan Batman's and Harry Potter done so well.
Nolan somehow had the studio by the balls. They tried to force Nolan to cast Leonardo DiCaprio as the Riddler/ie a Joker knockoff, but Nolan held firm with Bane and Talia as the villains.
Harry Potter on the other hand, there was some studio frickery. HBP and DH Part II show it especially. Like where the Death Eaters get black out drunk on Christmas and decide to burn down the Burrow... well that puts in a plot hole, like why didn't Voldemort himself come. There's no doubt in my mind that a producer said "Hey this is too boring, so we need a big action scene in the middle somewhere".
And then the end of DH Part 2, that's just awful. "Oh hey, two guys slowly circling each other in a crowded room slowly building up the tension where you can hear a pin drop? Boring! How about Harry throws Voldemort off the top of Hogwarts and then they go flying around the castle! That would be fricking epic!"
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:55 am to Green Chili Tiger
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When I look at what WB has done with adapted material, it's really a miracle we ever got the Nolan Batman's and Harry Potter done so well.
Live action I agree.
WB animation department produced some of the best comic book stuff. Mostly the stuff Bruce Timm touched.
Batman TAS, Superman TAS, most of the movies from 1990-2010, Young Justice, Batman Beyond, etc.....
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:15 am to Breesus
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Young Justice
I've got a 10 year old son. He loved that cartoon. We've watched all the age appropriate comic book movies together. Starting with The Avengers, all were at the theater. He loves them just as much as I do. He told me he doesn't care if we go see Justice League or not. That's how bad WB has screwed this up.
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