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re: Avatar: The Legend of Korra Season Long Thread
Posted on 6/4/12 at 2:31 am to leoj
Posted on 6/4/12 at 2:31 am to leoj
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when do we see amon's skin?
Korra and Tarlok have the same skin tone. Amon's is clearly different than Korra's.
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if that's true then they are at least in league together
Highly doubt it since pretty much the other wants the opposite that the other does. He's more or less the Long Feng of this series.
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I don't see how tarlok is against amon unless he is just on an insane power trip and hoping to leverage the situation for his own good?
That's what I'm thinking he's doing. He is pretty much ruling the city with an iron fist now, and only Korra and Tenzin were standing in his way.
But how is Tarlok going to cover this up? Tenzin knows Korra's impulsive nature, and when he arrives the next day to see the capital completely torn apart, he'll have to have a good idea on what happened. Guessing Tenzin may have to retreat to his Island, since he himself will likely have to declare direct war on Tarlok because he'll likely have full control of the city. I'm guessing that they will either have to find Korra and make sure she masters the Avatar State and Airbending, or they'll probably have to bring Katara in to kick his arse. I don't see how a non-waterbender stands a chance against Tarlok. It's pretty amazing how quick this city has gone straight to hell in 8 episodes.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 2:43 am
Posted on 6/4/12 at 9:42 am to OMLandshark
Amazing episode, the story sped up big time. Tarlok may try to cook up some story that equalists attacked him and Korra at his offices and were able to kidnap her. That would cover up his deeds and work towards building anti equalist sentiments. It would also paint him as a victim.
I can't wait until next week.
I can't wait until next week.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 10:17 am to weaglebeagle
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Amazing episode, the story sped up big time. Tarlok may try to cook up some story that equalists attacked him and Korra at his offices and were able to kidnap her. That would cover up his deeds and work towards building anti equalist sentiments. It would also paint him as a victim.
That would make sense, but I know that Tenzin wouldn't believe it. He knows that Amon would probably take Tarlok, someone who has visibly abused non-benders and has claimed to save Korra for much later. I just see a three way war brewing in Republic City: Team Avatar/Tenzin and the Air Nomads, Tarlok/Police Force, and finally the Equalists, not to mention the Triads that we haven't seen in a while.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 10:37 am to OMLandshark
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That would make sense, but I know that Tenzin wouldn't believe it. He knows that Amon would probably take Tarlok, someone who has visibly abused non-benders and has claimed to save Korra for much later. I just see a three way war brewing in Republic City: Team Avatar/Tenzin and the Air Nomads, Tarlok/Police Force, and finally the Equalists, not to mention the Triads that we haven't seen in a while.
I agree with the three way war. I can sort of see Tenzin staying in Republic City to try to solve things diplomatically and then sending team Avatar and maybe Bei Fong to find Korra since he knows Korra's rash nature and the fact that Tarlok is a liar.
I do wonder if they will go anywhere else with the Triads or was Amon sealing away the one bosses' bending a signal of their end?
I can't believe that I am somehow feeling more involved with this series than TLA already.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 10:48 am to weaglebeagle
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I agree with the three way war. I can sort of see Tenzin staying in Republic City to try to solve things diplomatically and then sending team Avatar and maybe Bei Fong to find Korra since he knows Korra's rash nature and the fact that Tarlok is a liar.
I don't see how long Tenzin can wait really. Tarlok isn't really much better than Ozai or Long Feng and very much has the potential to be worse. He's already got non-bending camps and curfews for them. Tarlok needs to be killed immediately, since unless he's to be kept in a padded cell with his arms and legs restrained for the rest of his life, he's got to be executed really since he'll immediately escape. I could see Katara making a return and really kicking his arse.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/4/12 at 12:02 pm to OMLandshark
quote:I agree that it needs to be done but I just don't see Tenzin doing it. He seems to be like his father in that regard. I don't mind his character having occasional outbursts but I like his calm adn controlled personality. Also, it doesn't seem like anybody else knows that Tarlok can blood bend. I'm sure if Tenzin knew that he would have told Korra just in case.
I don't see how long Tenzin can wait really. Tarlok isn't really much better than Ozai or Long Feng and very much has the potential to be worse. He's already got non-bending camps and curfews for them. Tarlok needs to be killed immediately, since unless he's to be kept in a padded cell with his arms and legs restrained for the rest of his life, he's got to be executed really since he'll immediately escape. I could see Katara making a return and really kicking his arse.
I'm beginning to reassess how this sesaon goes now. I agreed with some earlier that Amon would be taken out in the end revealing a much larger threat. Now i'm thinking that the rest of this season will focus on getting Korra back and having her take out Tarlok, maybe finally going into the Avatar state in the process. During all of this Tarlok will do something even more drastic to further divide benders and non-benders. Then Amon will carry out whatever his greater plan has been. Basically I imagine this being similar to the end of book two of TLA where Ba Sing Se was overthrown. That leaves the final season for Korra and the rest to begin picking up the pieces and take down Amon.
This post was edited on 6/4/12 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/5/12 at 6:59 am to weaglebeagle
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I agree that it needs to be done but I just don't see Tenzin doing it. He seems to be like his father in that regard. I don't mind his character having occasional outbursts but I like his calm adn controlled personality. Also, it doesn't seem like anybody else knows that Tarlok can blood bend. I'm sure if Tenzin knew that he would have told Korra just in case.
Bloodbending is not the problem from Tenzin's perspective. His only chance for a non-confrontational dethroning of Tarlok is bring the entire press to the meeting the next day, and force him to resign, but even that would probably not be enough. I think Tenzin will just arrive and see the aftermath and be greeted by the rest of the council, who all already knew of Tarlok's power and are terrified of him, which is why they've been blindly going along with all his proposals. He'll then have to retreat finally fully realizing the direness of his situation. He will probably send word to Katara and then of course team up with Lin and join her going completely outside the law in reclaiming the city. I fully expect Tenzin and Lin to bust out the rest of Team Avatar next episode, considering the episode isn't entirely flashbacks (which I think it probably will be).
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I'm beginning to reassess how this sesaon goes now. I agreed with some earlier that Amon would be taken out in the end revealing a much larger threat. Now i'm thinking that the rest of this season will focus on getting Korra back and having her take out Tarlok, maybe finally going into the Avatar state in the process. During all of this Tarlok will do something even more drastic to further divide benders and non-benders. Then Amon will carry out whatever his greater plan has been. Basically I imagine this being similar to the end of book two of TLA where Ba Sing Se was overthrown. That leaves the final season for Korra and the rest to begin picking up the pieces and take down Amon.
I really have no idea what direction the series is heading. It's incredible how much the city has gone to shite in 8 episodes. I still think there is some truth to Amon's speech near the beginning of the series, in that some spirits did indeed choose him and granted him the power of spirit-bending. The spirit that did is probably much worse, and would be a logical next opponent for Korra to face due to her lack of spiritual development.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 7:04 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:25 am to OMLandshark
Maybe Koh has something to do with it. Amon made a deal to get his power and it cost him his face!?
Just throwing shite at the wall at this point.
Although, I'm pretty sure we see Amon's eyes at one point, behind the mask.
Just throwing shite at the wall at this point.
Although, I'm pretty sure we see Amon's eyes at one point, behind the mask.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 7:28 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:28 am to Tom288
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Maybe Koh has something to do with it. Amon made a deal to get his power and it cost him his face!?
I mentioned that earlier in the thread. I think we'll see Koh again in this series, another movie, or the next series (they said they plan on continuing the universe after this series), but I don't think he's behind it. It would be great to see Korra, as hot headed as she is, go against Koh in some form. Maybe she has to go get answers from him like Aang did, which would be great. Would be cool if she showed emotion and has to flee from him, kinda like Aang and co. did from Wan She Tong.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 7:30 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:39 am to OMLandshark
Yeah, I think putting Korra in the same room as Koh would be a disaster waiting to happen.
I also have a feeling that Amon might end up being the one to take care of Tarlok.
I also have a feeling that Amon might end up being the one to take care of Tarlok.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:43 am to Tom288
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I also have a feeling that Amon might end up being the one to take care of Tarlok.
I'm not sure Amon can take him without a gigantic army. He's probably the most powerful bender we've seen so far in the series. Only person I think that stands a chance against him is Katara or a fully realized Korra. If Toph or Azula are still around they may be able to take him, but that's about it.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 7:53 am to OMLandshark
I think Amon's even more dangerous than we've seen to this point. Their two paths are seemingly on a collision course, and taking down Tarlok would show just how much of a threat Amon is.
I don't see someone killing Tarlok, but they're going to have to remove him as a threat at some point as the plot progresses.
I don't see someone killing Tarlok, but they're going to have to remove him as a threat at some point as the plot progresses.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 8:13 am to Tom288
Dont think Amon and Tarlok are working together but I wouldnt be surprised if they were working for same person/spirit.
IF a spirit gave Amon his abilities it's not to far a stretch to assume the spirit may have given Tarlok a boost as well ex blood bending wout a full moon.
If a spirit wanted to destroy Republic City, which seems to have moved on past believing in the spirit world, quickest way to do it is arm 2 opposing sides and let them destroy each other.
IF a spirit gave Amon his abilities it's not to far a stretch to assume the spirit may have given Tarlok a boost as well ex blood bending wout a full moon.
If a spirit wanted to destroy Republic City, which seems to have moved on past believing in the spirit world, quickest way to do it is arm 2 opposing sides and let them destroy each other.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 8:16 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 8:29 am to jacks40
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IF a spirit gave Amon his abilities it's not to far a stretch to assume the spirit may have given Tarlok a boost as well ex blood bending wout a full moon.
If a spirit wanted to destroy Republic City, which seems to have moved on past believing in the spirit world, quickest way to do it is arm 2 opposing sides and let them destroy each other.
Damn, damn good theory.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 8:43 am to OMLandshark
That makes a lot of sense.
Question for everyone, I feel like Amon and Tarlok have been developed very well so far. I think the same of Korra and even Tenzin. Does anyone else think that the rest of Team Avatar, Mako, Bolin, and Asami suffer in that regard?
It's not that we don't know anything about them or feel anything for them, it's just that compared to Katara, Sokka, and Toph they don't seem as well rounded as characters. I wonder if perhaps that is a downside to having a shorter series.
I know this is probably jumping the gun since there is plenty of time left and we are only 8 episodes in but I just worry that they represent a weak area character wise.
Oh yeah, nobody mentioned how much of a creeper Meelo is.
Question for everyone, I feel like Amon and Tarlok have been developed very well so far. I think the same of Korra and even Tenzin. Does anyone else think that the rest of Team Avatar, Mako, Bolin, and Asami suffer in that regard?
It's not that we don't know anything about them or feel anything for them, it's just that compared to Katara, Sokka, and Toph they don't seem as well rounded as characters. I wonder if perhaps that is a downside to having a shorter series.
I know this is probably jumping the gun since there is plenty of time left and we are only 8 episodes in but I just worry that they represent a weak area character wise.
Oh yeah, nobody mentioned how much of a creeper Meelo is.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 8:49 am to weaglebeagle
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I feel like Amon and Tarlok have been developed very well so far. I think the same of Korra and even Tenzin.
Yeah, all 4 of these are very well developed characters.
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Does anyone else think that the rest of Team Avator, Mako, Bolin, and Asami suffer in that regard?
I think the problem is they don't mix as well together. The 5 members of the original Team Avatar mixed very well together and each brought out their best sides and the worst in the other. With Korra's Team... not so much. Seriously, have Bolin and Asami said one word to each other yet? Mako is probably the least realized of all of them. I think they just took Zuko and made him less pissed off and conflicted, but it doesn't really work as well.
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Oh yeah, nobody mentioned how much of a creeper Meelo is.
Meelo's just completely out of control, and not in a good way. Ikki's humor works in the series, but fartbending? Really? Come on guys, you're clearly better than writing fartbending jokes. While I've always been curious of what airbendings ultimate technique is (in the vein of lightning, metal, and bloodbending), I really didn't imagine it to be so anti-climatic.
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 8:55 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:18 am to OMLandshark
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Damn, damn good theory. Tarlok did say "There's alot you don't know about me." I think it's highly highly likely we'll find out what we don't know about him.
The thing I'm most unsure of is how will the flashbacks play into this. Obviously something happened to Aang that is directly related to the events in the present.
Did Tarlok, get beat by Aang or figure out that the best possible way to beat an Avatar is to go to find a spirit to help him?
Flashbacks from the past episode looked like it was in a courtroom with Aang just a spectator. Completely a guess but I'm thinking Toph or more likely Sokka did something, or were setup, that put them on the wrong side of Aang/Zukos newly formed laws of Republic City and they had to go down for it bc even friends of the Avatar cant be above the law. Tarlok maybe had something to do with that as well
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:25 am to weaglebeagle
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I know this is probably jumping the gun since there is plenty of time left and we are only 8 episodes in but I just worry that they represent a weak area character wise.
Supposedly, the seasons are suppose to be more stand alone than the previous series. With only 4 episodes left for this season, and at least 1 SPOILERS
centered heavily around the past and having Zuko in it that doesn't leave much time to develop those 3 at least in this season.
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Oh yeah, nobody mentioned how much of a creeper Meelo is.
Not only is he is a creeper but he is an annoying character and possibly the worse drawn character out of either of the 2 series.
In fact he is so poorly drawn compared to the rest of characters I wonder if that is the creators way of telling us don't take this kid seriously he is just an outlet for the stupid things we want to say.
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:31 am to jacks40
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Flashbacks from the past episode looked like it was in a courtroom with Aang just a spectator. Completely a guess but I'm thinking Toph or more likely Sokka did something, or were setup, that put them on the wrong side of Aang/Zukos newly formed laws of Republic City and they had to go down for it bc even friends of the Avatar cant be above the law. Tarlok maybe had something to do with that as well
Tarlok earlier mentioned Yakone who had a confrontation with Aang many years before, which according to some fans means "bloody snow" in some Inuit language. My theory right now is Yakone does mass murder in the capital by bloodbending, which includes Toph and Sokka (explaining their non-presence here). I'm thinking Sokka and Toph may have been most effected because Sokka was probably the Southern Water Tribe Representative on the council (and probably the most influential member) while Toph was the Chief of Police. Aang as a waterbender could somewhat defend himself from Yakone's attack, but Toph and Sokka were screwed. Aang is the only survivor and then kills him. Somehow Tarlok and Amon are connected with him. I'm thinking Tarlok may be Yakone's son and learned how he got his powers. Here are the flashbacks we've gotten so far: LINK
This post was edited on 6/5/12 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/5/12 at 9:35 am to jacks40
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Not only is he is a creeper but he is an annoying character and possibly the worse drawn character out of either of the 2 series.
In fact he is so poorly drawn compared to the rest of characters I wonder if that is the creators way of telling us don't take this kid seriously he is just an outlet for the stupid things we want to say.
Sadly, I think that's exactly what they're trying to say. Meelo is the Jar Jar Binks of the Avatar universe, but fortunately he's not important to the plot and has only been in a few minutes of less than half the episode.
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