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Avatar Discussion Thread: Spoilers! Box office. 2 billion & counting

Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:20 am
ETA: per Deadline

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#AvatarTheWayOfWater??? budget is reportedly around $460M

The most expensive film ever

(via @DEADLINE)


International presales are off to a great start
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#AvatarTheWayOfWater starts its international roll-out tomorrow. Expecting $450M weekend.

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84% after 122 reviews

7.30 out of 10 average rating


NoBoDy CaReS, ItS going to FlOp!!!

From a respected China box office analyst
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Avatar: The Way of Water already make $7M from Chinese advance ticket sale and is about to outperformance The Battle at Lake Changjin II at the same point. Best pre-sale number of 2022. I guess $600M lifetime can be expected if WOM is good. #AvatarTheWayOfWater???


LINK

(Updated) Per boxoffice Pro

Domestic is currently trending $167,000,000 – $192,000,000 OW

Domestic total

$662,000,000 – $861,000,000
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 12:39 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:28 am to
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NoBoDy CaReS, ItS going to FlOp!!!

It's definitely not going to flop...are people saying this?

It's gonna be gigantic. It may not surpass the original box office, but this movie will be huge. It will definitely be a theater experience that lots of people will want to see.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:32 am to
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It's definitely not going to flop...are people saying this?
this

The first movie was a shitty, plagiarized story with fantastic visuals

and it set records at the box office

From what I am hearing, this is more of the same
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:33 am to
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It's definitely not going to flop...are people saying this?


There's a lot of people convinced it's going to fail. Many on this board
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:36 am to
Overseas markets are more forgiving to movies with more spectacle, less plot, because the translations can lose some of it anyway. It's better now than it used to be, but at the end of the day doing well in China isn't an assurance the movie will pan out.

Just see the World of Warcraft movie. Did well in China, but failed in most markets and never got a sequel.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13916 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:44 am to
I don't get the hatred for it.

It's not like they're ruining an established IP with political nonsense
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:59 am to
It will hit $1 billion easily WW, easily. Quite possibly much more. That’s far from a flop
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35502 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:34 am to
Avatar made $250 Million on a re-release of Avatar awhile back.

It was always going to be a big sell in China, they like stupid shite. Especially if it shows Westerners as evil.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:18 am to
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I guess $600M

China going to make bank. You understand that Disney only gets to keep somewhere in 25-40% range for box office returns in China?
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4990 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:20 am to
Never will get this. It looks like a boring video game. It did then, it still does now.

Millennials. What a bunch of weirdos.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50769 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:23 am to
Have a group planning on taking some edibles and going to see it
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:42 am to
Why do people on here want Avatar to fail again? Is it “woke” or something?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:45 am to
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There's a lot of people convinced it's going to fail. Many on this board


I think you're full of shite. What I think you're doing is counting people saying they hope it flops as people saying it will flop.

There are at best maybe a handful of people that have said it will flop, and I think I'm being generous with that estimation.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:51 am to
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From what I am hearing, this is more of the same


It's going to be so much "more of the same" that they're inexplicably bringing back Sigourney Weaver and Stephen Lang even though their characters died.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:52 am to
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It will hit $1 billion easily WW, easily. Quite possibly much more. That’s far from a flop



What's the break-even point?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:58 am to
No one knows. Never trust Hollywood accounting. The budget is supposedly between 350-400 mil
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:00 pm to
I'm not convinced it will "flop" in the technical sense (be a financial loss).

But I do have my suspicions that the break-even point for all of these movies will be so high, and audience fatigue* will set it soon enough, that by Avatar 4 (if not by Avatar 3), profits will be marginal at best.

Edit: *I mean, who cannot get fatigued with repetitive sequels about these goody-two-shoes blue aliens that have no moral faults because they're "at one" with nature?

Like I said earlier, Cameron should flip the script and make it about the human Marines heroically slaughtering these hippies.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:14 pm to
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No one knows. Never trust Hollywood accounting. The budget is supposedly between 350-400 mil


That's the projected cost for the next 2/3 movies total though, right...not just Avatar 2?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Avatar Boxoffice: China presales off to a great start


the entire country is in lock down so they cant leave the house under threat of being shot.

that tends to put a dent in the number of people going out to theaters
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
51592 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 12:19 pm to
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That's the projected cost for the next 2/3 movies total though, right...not just Avatar 2?


Just this film, according to some outlets
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