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re: Assassination of Jesse James by The Coward Robert Ford

Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by uway
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:05 pm to
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Between 21 and 65.


I'm bored by that answer.
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Posted by VOR
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:08 pm to
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I'm bored by that answer


I barely finished typing it.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:55 pm to
Funny how this is the movie that set people over the edge

I have a friend and we constantly argue over Mr. Brooks. I'm of the opinion the movie sucked...he loved it. The line was drawn over a shitty Kevin Costner movie but sometimes those are the films that separate us
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:03 pm to
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The other guy was calling non-fans of this movie 8-year olds.

Not at all. Only the people who's gripe is "I was bored." Feel free to discuss what you don't like about the movie by actually critiquing the aspects of the film.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:11 pm to
Nobody's underrated this movie.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:11 pm to
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Not at all. Only the people who's gripe is "I was bored." Feel free to discuss what you don't like about the movie by actually critiquing the aspects of the film.



kind of like your "I saw it. It sucked" review of HP?



Love this movie BTW. Don't find it boring at all. Looks beautiful on bluray
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:21 pm to
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kind of like your "I saw it. It sucked" review of HP?

Exactly like my "I saw it. It sucked" review of HP.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:30 pm to
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Only the people who's gripe is "I was bored."


Do you watch to the end movies that bore you just so that you can properly critique them? Seems like a waste of time unless you're getting paid for it.

Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:04 pm to
Finally watched it today and really liked it. Sure, it was slow but very interesting and held my attention the entire time.

Did Jesse James really go out that way? Seems like he sort of gave up and let Ford achieve his goal.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:29 pm to
I'm pretty sure that's how it went down.

I felt a lot of pity for Robert. It was a situation of kill or (eventually) be killed. He did what anyone in that situation would have done.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:34 pm to
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Sure, it was slow but very interesting and held my attention the entire time
I see this thread is an old convo that I missed but I'll say that as long as it was, it didn't feel long or slow to me. I was absolutely captivated by it. The wonderful dialog, the subtle nonverbal communication, it breezed by for me. I didn't feel like watching that movie was a laborious task by any means as, say The White Ribbon for example, which I also think is a great movie.
quote:

Did Jesse James really go out that way? Seems like he sort of gave up and let Ford achieve his goal.



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I was left wondering if the movie intended for us to believe that James had grown so tired of the mental illness, insomnia, paranoia, etc. that he purposely took his guns off and stood up on the chair to give Ford his shot, or if he really didn't realize what was about to happen until he saw the reflection in the picture.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:39 pm to
There was an earlier movie, perhaps Frank & Jesse, that ended almost identically.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:41 pm to
Well, the whole taking the guns off so the neighbors wouldn't see and standing up on a stool/chair to dust a picture story is the actual account of how it happened. My only question was what the movie-makers were trying to convey in that specific movie.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 4:46 pm to
I think it was probably to tell Robert Ford's story. He killed one of the most beloved criminals ever, and people couldn't get over it. If it had been a criminal everyone hated, he would have been viewed as a hero, but in the court of public opinion, he was regarded as a coward.

I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18418 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 8:40 pm to
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I think it was probably to tell Robert Ford's story. He killed one of the most beloved criminals ever, and people couldn't get over it. If it had been a criminal everyone hated, he would have been viewed as a hero, but in the court of public opinion, he was regarded as a coward.

I agree with this.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18418 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 8:44 pm to
After doing a little research, it looks like the assassination scene was right on the money in terms of how it all went down.

However....

quote:

until he saw the reflection in the picture.


I wonder if this was Hollywood at work here. Who knows if he actually saw a reflection in the picture.....

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But even if it didn't, it made the scene a little better.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 9:12 pm to
Slow paced movies you either love or hate. It either resonates with you or it doesn't. I loved Assassination, but I've disliked similar slow paced movies because of the fact. Guess it just depends if you like the actors/characters and the director's style.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 2/5/11 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

I think it was probably to tell Robert Ford's story. He killed one of the most beloved criminals ever, and people couldn't get over it. If it had been a criminal everyone hated, he would have been viewed as a hero, but in the court of public opinion, he was regarded as a coward.
Oh, I think you're right about that.

My one question referred specifically to whether the movie intended for us to think that James knew the hit was coming before he laid down his belt. It seemed that they wanted us to take that from that scene. That's the only part of that scene that seems out of line with the real account, since I've never seen any evidence suggesting that. And they don't openly come right out and tell us that James set himself up on purpose, I just got the vibe that thats what the movie intended to convey.
Posted by LSUGradATL
Warsawa/ATL
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/5/11 at 6:27 pm to
IMO history can be manipulated. In you guys opinion, how much do you believe this is how it really happened.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/5/11 at 6:37 pm to
I think he had made up his mind as soon as he finished reading the paper and came into the living room. You could see it on his face. That feeling if emptiness in his stomach, like watching a girlfriend you still love kiss another man. He knew, the only two people in the world, really the only people he ever trusted later in life; had betrrayed him. That's a bad feeling. I think him seeing Robert raise his gun was just a great shot by the director.
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