re: Arrow: Season 3 Thread

If Oliver is going after Nyssa by order of Ra's, I wonder if it is just to bring her home, or is he going after her to punish her for doing something wrong (like maybe using the pit on a certain person without approval)?

Is Nanda Parbat like one state over from Starling City? They seem to get there pretty quickly.

Almost two pages and no one comments on how sexy Felicity looked in the scene where she is on the plane with Ollie?

I believe Nanda Parbat and the Island are about a 30 minute plane ride away from each other.

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Almost two pages and no one comments on how sexy Felicity looked in the scene where she is on the plane with Ollie?

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I dont think there's a scene where she doesn't look sexy at this point. Felicity with her hair down (and no shirt) is just about the best thing ever.

I feel like I'm having major problems with this season. A lot of it just seems illogical, and they refuse to let anything simmer for more than a single episode.

First, I don't understand Malcom's logic. He initiates the events that kick off season 3 by framing a murder on his daughter and then for pretty much every episode after that keeps trying to convince Thea that he really cares about her.

Secondly, why does Oliver and company hate the league so much? They were obviously ok with them when Nyssa helped take down Slade, but now they're a bunch of murdering psychopaths? It just seems it's a vendetta out of convenience for for them being the major antagonists this season.

I mean, forcing Oliver to join the league is probably the worst thing they've done, but they seem pretty honorable outside if that and Ras's pitch for Oliver to join the league does actually make a lot of sense. He could do a lot more good for Starling with an army of assassins than with Diggle and Felicity.

Then you have the last two episodes where Roy is stabbed, comes back minutes later, then Thea is stabbed, revived the very next episode and is close to back to normal when the credits roll.

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Just keep in mind in the reborn Arrow identity that Ollie swore off killing. So yeah they arent all about him joining a league of assassins.

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But did Ras not say Oliver could have the league do basically whatever he wanted?

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Then you have the last two episodes where Roy is stabbed, comes back minutes later, then Thea is stabbed, revived the very next episode and is close to back to normal when the credits roll.

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Yeah, in many ways they really aren't letting anything get past a certain level of dramatic tension. Oliver was alive within 2 minutes of the episode after the fight. Problem is that we know all the characters are important in the future. Also that the League's morality is not black and white.

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Secondly, why does Oliver and company hate the league so much? They were obviously ok with them when Nyssa helped take down Slade, but now they're a bunch of murdering psychopaths? It just seems it's a vendetta out of convenience for for them being the major antagonists this season.

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They never liked the league. They accepted their help but that was all. Plus he was forced into fighting with them by Malcolm. The vendetta only appeared because the League started killing people in Oliver's name. How do you not understand that one? They have forced his hand as well. He tried to simply walk away.

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I mean, forcing Oliver to join the league is probably the worst thing they've done, but they seem pretty honorable outside if that and Ras's pitch for Oliver to join the league does actually make a lot of sense. He could do a lot more good for Starling with an army of assassins than with Diggle and Felicity.

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Especially since He explained to Oliver that as leader his will would be done. That the League didn't have to kill.

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First, I don't understand Malcom's logic. He initiates the events that kick off season 3 by framing a murder on his daughter and then for pretty much every episode after that keeps trying to convince Thea that he really cares about her.

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There is a chance Ras set all that up. Told Merlin he would be allowed to go free if he helped set it all up. Ras also knew when he stabbed Oliver it wasn't fatal. I think we find out that every step along the way Oliver was being manipulated.

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You actually think Ollie will get to do whatever he wants with the league?

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Technically yes. However, and the preview hinted at this. That the current Ras has to brainwash the heir into submission of the league's mission. Basically, no matter who Ras is, it's the same man.

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First, I don't understand Malcom's logic. He initiates the events that kick off season 3 by framing a murder on his daughter and then for pretty much every episode after that keeps trying to convince Thea that he really cares about her.

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His plan to get free of Ras by having Oliver kill him is probably my biggest issue with the season. Malcolm has been shown to be this great mastermind as far as planning goes (having TWO earthquake machines) but the one to escape the LoA was beyond stupid, for all the time he spent in Nanda Parbat he should have known Oliver couldn't take Ras.

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Secondly, why does Oliver and company hate the league so much? They were obviously ok with them when Nyssa helped take down Slade, but now they're a bunch of murdering psychopaths? It just seems it's a vendetta out of convenience for for them being the major antagonists this season.

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The LoA are basically Oliver in season 1, means to an end, murder for justice type shite. They clash with his new ideals as a hero, that there are alternative ways than just killing everyone. He was more or less okay with them at the end of last season because he was in a dire situation and atleast Sara was with them.

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I mean, forcing Oliver to join the league is probably the worst thing they've done, but they seem pretty honorable outside if that and Ras's pitch for Oliver to join the league does actually make a lot of sense. He could do a lot more good for Starling with an army of assassins than with Diggle and Felicity.

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Its all about the theme of the season, "identity". Oliver was on his way to becoming a real superhero at the start of the season before Sara died. The rest of the season has been about him doubting whether or not being Oliver Queen holds him back from doing more good as The Arrow. The LoA has now stripped him of the Oliver Queen part of him, the part that holds back from killing criminals when there are alternative way and the part that makes him more than just a vigilante. Logically, yea he could probably do a lot more with the LoA, but it would cost him his soul.

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Then you have the last two episodes where Roy is stabbed, comes back minutes later, then Thea is stabbed, revived the very next episode and is close to back to normal when the credits roll.

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I do think it would have been a lot more powerful if Roy had died last episode, but clearly the producers intend to bring him back every now and again. Thea may seem normal right now but the producers have indicated that she's far from it and the issues that surround being ressurected will continue to plague her even into season 4.