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re: Apparently, Seth MacFarlane hates women
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:51 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:51 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
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Pierce Hawthorne
Obvious alter is obvious
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Yes. Still gay.
Great argument
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:56 pm to DallasTiger11
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And all of these people that are freaking out about Seth are making themselves look so bitter and stupid. What the hell did they expect when the Academy picked him to host?
Well, in fairness, those people probably didn't pick Seth, and this is them showing their disagreement with the choice. The Academy host selector =/= everyone that will be there.
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he only crossed the line a couple times.
Well, even if everyone that picked Seth didn't think he would cross the line, maybe crossing the line is where we should draw the line?
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:58 pm to blueboy
The New Yorker also ran an article ripping both MacFarlane and the oscars over this
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:00 pm to blueboy
I demand to know if SM is a homo. NOW
This is bothering me
This is bothering me
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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My girlfriend is as feminist as it comes
punch her in the nose, closed fist, hard as you can
when she starts the whole "you can't hit a woman" shite, you'll know that she really isn't
ETA: I would never hit a woman, ever. I was raised a southern gentleman. But nothing pisses me off like a hypocritical feminist
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:30 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:I thought he was a terrible host, but what this woman assumes is ridiculous.
Mostly because I abhor Seth Mcfarlane and his smug smirk.
I really have no idea why the academy chose him.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:21 pm to blueboy
Yeah, but I just don't like shock humor.
It's too lazy.
That's what offends me.
Also, I don't know what it's like to be a woman, so I can't fully comment on her ideas.
It's too lazy.
That's what offends me.
Also, I don't know what it's like to be a woman, so I can't fully comment on her ideas.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:42 pm to MrPackSix
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And what exactly did the Oscars think they were getting when they got him to do this?
Exactly this and higher ratings from the 18-34 demographic, which is what they got. The Academy has stood behind everything he did and are pleased with the result.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:44 pm to blueboy
He's not gay. He is supportive of the gay community because he has a close gay relative. I believe I read this on Wikipedia. I know, doesn't mean it's true but that's all I've got.
Eta:From Wikipedia
Gay rights support
MacFarlane came to support gay rights and gay marriage after a family member wondered aloud whether his gay cousin's homosexuality could be "cured".[43] The incident angered MacFarlane, who said in a 2008 interview in The Advocate, that such a statement "was fricking horrifying to hear from somebody that you love".[43] He credits his parents for raising him to be a logical person.
MacFarlane is passionate about his support for gay rights.[43] He said it is "infuriating and idiotic" that two gay partners "have to go through this fricking dog and pony act when they stop at a hotel and the guy behind the counter says, 'You want one room or two?'". He went on to say, "I'm incredibly passionate about my support for the gay community and what they're dealing with at this current point in time".[43] MacFarlane continued, "Why is it that Johnny Spaghetti Stain in fricking Georgia can knock a woman up, legally be married to her, and then beat the shite out of her, but these two intelligent, sophisticated writers who have been together for 20 years can't get married?"[43]
MacFarlane, in recognition of "his active, passionate commitment to Humanist values, and his fearless support of equal marriage rights and other social justice issues", was named the Harvard Humanist of the Year in 2011.[103]
Despite his position on gay rights, MacFarlane was criticized for his portrayal of transsexualism in the Family Guy episode "Quagmire's Dad". Gay novelist Brent Hartinger found the episode's inclusion of transphobic remarks from Peter and Lois Griffin — as well as a scene of Brian vomiting profusely upon discovering his new girlfriend to be transgender (a satirical reference to the iconic film The Crying Game) — to be "shockingly insensitive". Hartinger continued, "Frankly, it's literally impossible for me to reconcile last night's episode with MacFarlane's words, unless I come to the conclusion that the man is pretty much a complete idiot".[104] The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, a LGBT media watchdog organization, shared "serious concerns being voiced from members of the community" about the episode.[105] MacFarlane said he was "surprised" by the negative reaction to "Quagmire's Dad", saying that "it seemed that [gay commentators] were not picking up on the fact that it was a very sympathetic portrayal of a transsexual character". He further added, "Look, Brian happens to be a heterosexual character, as I am. If I found out that I had slept with a transsexual, I might throw up in the same way that a gay guy looks at a vagina and goes, 'Oh, my God, that's disgusting.'"[106]
Eta:From Wikipedia
Gay rights support
MacFarlane came to support gay rights and gay marriage after a family member wondered aloud whether his gay cousin's homosexuality could be "cured".[43] The incident angered MacFarlane, who said in a 2008 interview in The Advocate, that such a statement "was fricking horrifying to hear from somebody that you love".[43] He credits his parents for raising him to be a logical person.
MacFarlane is passionate about his support for gay rights.[43] He said it is "infuriating and idiotic" that two gay partners "have to go through this fricking dog and pony act when they stop at a hotel and the guy behind the counter says, 'You want one room or two?'". He went on to say, "I'm incredibly passionate about my support for the gay community and what they're dealing with at this current point in time".[43] MacFarlane continued, "Why is it that Johnny Spaghetti Stain in fricking Georgia can knock a woman up, legally be married to her, and then beat the shite out of her, but these two intelligent, sophisticated writers who have been together for 20 years can't get married?"[43]
MacFarlane, in recognition of "his active, passionate commitment to Humanist values, and his fearless support of equal marriage rights and other social justice issues", was named the Harvard Humanist of the Year in 2011.[103]
Despite his position on gay rights, MacFarlane was criticized for his portrayal of transsexualism in the Family Guy episode "Quagmire's Dad". Gay novelist Brent Hartinger found the episode's inclusion of transphobic remarks from Peter and Lois Griffin — as well as a scene of Brian vomiting profusely upon discovering his new girlfriend to be transgender (a satirical reference to the iconic film The Crying Game) — to be "shockingly insensitive". Hartinger continued, "Frankly, it's literally impossible for me to reconcile last night's episode with MacFarlane's words, unless I come to the conclusion that the man is pretty much a complete idiot".[104] The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, a LGBT media watchdog organization, shared "serious concerns being voiced from members of the community" about the episode.[105] MacFarlane said he was "surprised" by the negative reaction to "Quagmire's Dad", saying that "it seemed that [gay commentators] were not picking up on the fact that it was a very sympathetic portrayal of a transsexual character". He further added, "Look, Brian happens to be a heterosexual character, as I am. If I found out that I had slept with a transsexual, I might throw up in the same way that a gay guy looks at a vagina and goes, 'Oh, my God, that's disgusting.'"[106]
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:49 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
The best think about the article was in the comments.
"I'm reading this... and wondering where are all these women complaining about the spectacle taking place for 90 minutes prior, the objectification of "beautiful people" on the red carpet beforehand in gushing tones. You seem laser-focused on McFarlane's comments, but things said about people and the clothes they wore beforehand were just as objectifying, misogynistic, and off-base as inside.
Look, we get it. You didn't like McFarlane. But the way the article is written, the author was predisposed to take any attempt to reply to her as sexist male whining. Way to open a dialogue.
I'm an old guy, so maybe I'm a bit rigid and inflexible, perhaps a little old-fashioned for a hipster-tinged debate like this. But it seems to me in life if you go into a situation expecting to be offended, you'll soon enough find something to take offense at.
Lighten up, okay? Your righteous anger isn't really going to hurt anyone else, but it might give you a bit of a bit of an ulcer. If you feel motivated, good - use it to fuel your desire to be a funnier comedian, or a better writer, or a greater filmmaker, instead of a world-champion whiner on internet discusion boards.
But also try to do something that we in America have forgotten how to do. Remember that life is not winner take all. People can disagree without being mortal enemies. It is okay some people liked the show and you didn't. That does not make them evil.
Insisting everyone must adopt your world view or else makes you a megalomaniac - which pretty much fits my definition of evil. And the only ones here insisting on that viewpoint... have been the author, and her supporters."
"I'm reading this... and wondering where are all these women complaining about the spectacle taking place for 90 minutes prior, the objectification of "beautiful people" on the red carpet beforehand in gushing tones. You seem laser-focused on McFarlane's comments, but things said about people and the clothes they wore beforehand were just as objectifying, misogynistic, and off-base as inside.
Look, we get it. You didn't like McFarlane. But the way the article is written, the author was predisposed to take any attempt to reply to her as sexist male whining. Way to open a dialogue.
I'm an old guy, so maybe I'm a bit rigid and inflexible, perhaps a little old-fashioned for a hipster-tinged debate like this. But it seems to me in life if you go into a situation expecting to be offended, you'll soon enough find something to take offense at.
Lighten up, okay? Your righteous anger isn't really going to hurt anyone else, but it might give you a bit of a bit of an ulcer. If you feel motivated, good - use it to fuel your desire to be a funnier comedian, or a better writer, or a greater filmmaker, instead of a world-champion whiner on internet discusion boards.
But also try to do something that we in America have forgotten how to do. Remember that life is not winner take all. People can disagree without being mortal enemies. It is okay some people liked the show and you didn't. That does not make them evil.
Insisting everyone must adopt your world view or else makes you a megalomaniac - which pretty much fits my definition of evil. And the only ones here insisting on that viewpoint... have been the author, and her supporters."
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:50 pm to Froman
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Exactly this and higher ratings from the 18-34 demographic, which is what they got. The Academy has stood behind everything he did and are pleased with the result.
Django's nominations had more to do with it then Seth hosting. Honestly, if Django wasn't nominated for anything and there was a decent basketball game, I wouldn't have watched a single minute of it.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:00 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
Gay or not (and I still say gay), the article is bullshite.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:25 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
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Django's nominations had more to do with it then Seth hosting. Honestly, if Django wasn't nominated for anything and there was a decent basketball game, I wouldn't have watched a single minute of it.
I disagree with you, but the Academy gave Seth most of the credit as well.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:33 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
Clearly you just hate Seth MacFarlane and are set on calling him gay no matter what.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:36 pm to TotesMcGotes
I dislike MacFarlane because he insists on ruining that could be a great show by inserting his assbackwards liberal sensibilities into the frame. His homosexuality doesn't affect me in the slightest nor does it affect my opinion of the man.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:43 pm to blueboy
McFarland is gay? Not that I'm a huge fan of the dude but everybody is gay now wth.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:44 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
He's said he's not gay. He's very outspoken for gay rights. Why would he hide it?
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:47 pm to Chef Leppard
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I demand to know if SM is a homo. NOW
Have you ever wanted to sing a broadway showtune? No. Well, he sang about 30 of them during the 4 hour telecast.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:48 pm to Pierce Hawthorne
I don't understand why this is a discussion. Had he got up there and sang a song about how he saw Kerry Washington, Jamie Foxx, or any other black actor depicted a a slave the whole friggin' country would be in uproar, and rightfully so.
The simple fact is that there still exists a marked disparity between the treatment and compensation of men and women in the country. As such, it shouldn't be a shock that his song that basically takes actresses careers and instead of highlighting their moments of achievement highlights the moments that they showed "the goods" could be seen as a form of objectification. I don't think that was his or the academy's intention, but I do think it was poorly thought out.
This isn't a product of some bull**** PC society, it's a product of using living in an unequal society.
The simple fact is that there still exists a marked disparity between the treatment and compensation of men and women in the country. As such, it shouldn't be a shock that his song that basically takes actresses careers and instead of highlighting their moments of achievement highlights the moments that they showed "the goods" could be seen as a form of objectification. I don't think that was his or the academy's intention, but I do think it was poorly thought out.
This isn't a product of some bull**** PC society, it's a product of using living in an unequal society.
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