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re: Anthony Mackie explains how Sam not having the super soldier serum affects action
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:47 pm to boomtown143
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:47 pm to boomtown143
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bro, are you really this stupid?
Yes. I'm stupid enough to recognize that the way these rewrites, reshoots, and budgets are covered is very dependent on geek websites' preconceived feelings for or vibes about a film.
Marvel has been open about ditching ideas that aren't working at the script phase and even into production. No one cared when every marvel film was hitting. Even now, the daredevil show scrapped the whole season while it was being filmed. It will end up being a massively expensive season of television that took about as long to come out as the new Captain America. But people remember the netflix daredevil fondly and really want this new season to be good. Our resident marvel/disney doom accountants will give these issues a pass unless the finished product seriously disappoints. Daredevil is getting the benefit of the doubt where Captain America is not -- both sight unseen, and both with similar issues.
After reshoots, each of the last Avengers films cost around $400 million. They didn't suffer covid and strike delays that caused budgets to explode, as Captain America and The Marvels did. They were spending almost $100 million per film on reshoots as they were rewriting large chunks of the script on the fly. This has been the marvel process for over a decade. It was something you all liked through Endgame. No one pretended be disney finance masters, chastising Marvel for its inefficient filmmaking process, even though the spending was obviously out of control.
So yeah, people get worried about Marvel delays and reshoots when they want to be worried about delays and reshoots. I know Captain America had a ton. As I am not a disney shareholder, and I just want some good movies to watch, I'll wait until this comes out to decide if those reshoots were worth it, or a problem, or not.
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:15 pm to Jay Are
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:35 pm to boomtown143
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With Sam, him being a counselor, he uses more of his brains than brawn. He uses more of his wit than his fist.
We could have avoided the snap if S.H.I.E.L.D just sent a social worker instead of The Avengers.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:59 pm to boomtown143
I love Mackie, but him as Cap will be just like Sam as Cap in the comics.
Boring, try hard, and ultimately wildly unpopular.
This movie should force them to scrap the Cap, or recast Steve.
Boring, try hard, and ultimately wildly unpopular.
This movie should force them to scrap the Cap, or recast Steve.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 6:01 pm to Jay Are
Pretty sure this film started filming after falcon/winter soldier, no?
That would be post covid
That would be post covid
Posted on 11/27/24 at 6:07 pm to Jay Are
quote:I mean, this is the 3rd or 4th round of full reshoots for a movie that has already released TWO frickING TRAILERS and has already spent about 400 mil!!!
So yeah, people get worried about Marvel delays and reshoots when they want to be worried about delays and reshoots
The last movie with this level of bullshite, was Justice League, and this movie will likely cost multiples more.
This movie may end up being the most expensive movie ever made, and will likely need to top a billion dollars to break even, after marketing.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 6:21 pm to Roaad
Jay Are is just being his usual shite stirring contrarian self.
I mean the McDonalds toys for the movie got released in spring earlier this year
I mean the McDonalds toys for the movie got released in spring earlier this year
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:37 am to Sun God
I mean how do you do reshoots AFTER trailer #2 comes out?
Has this ever happened before in a major studio release?
Even Justice League did reshoots before the 2nd trailer
Has this ever happened before in a major studio release?
Even Justice League did reshoots before the 2nd trailer
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:07 pm to rebelrouser
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They had him doing a landing that created a sonic boom in the trailer. That's some combat training
Not that it matters in a comic book movie, but that is not how sonic booms work.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:15 pm to boomtown143
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With Sam, him being a counselor, he uses more of his brains than brawn. He uses more of his wit than his fist. He’s more of a friend to everyone.
That makes zero sense. It's PR spin, and nothing more. The studio knew they had to come up with some answer, and this is the best they could come up with. Pathetic.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:28 pm to Corinthians420
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Louisiana Legend
What? That doesn't even make any sense.
Good actor, seems like a decent guy. But legend?
FFS. he's not Denzel, or the late James Earl Jones.
Future legend? Maybe.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:41 pm to skrayper
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think I read that his new suit is vibranium from Wakanda - which means they'll at least have a built in reason for him not getting pulped by superpowered people and his knees not shooting straight up through his skull the first time he lands.
yeah, if you didn't see the Falcon and Winter Soldier, they gave him the new suit towards the end of the series and it still has his wings and shite.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 10:38 am to PowerTool
This is a movie that has been on shaky ground in a franchise that has lost its way. They would have to absolutely nail it as well as they did with CA: Winter Soldier
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:26 pm to jmarto1
Why didn’t they just give him the super soldier serum? Wouldn’t that have just made it way easier.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:59 pm to Colonel Flagg
Who knows. Maybe it just felt like too much black washing
Posted on 11/30/24 at 3:13 pm to boomtown143
So he's gonna batman it up.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 11:22 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Good actor, seems like a decent guy. But legend?
He's a legend for me just for doing the voice over of the best hype video I've ever seen.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 12:36 am to boomtown143
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Disney screwed him though.
I absolutely like the character and actor but Disney made him real unlikeable at the end of F&WS.
Unnecessarily. The real world and MCU would accept him as CA. Only in the fictional world that the Disney screenwriters created in their mind would there be pushback at a black CA.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 3:08 am to boomtown143
DEI Capt. America. They should have made Bucky Barnes Cap.
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