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re: AMC's Halt and catch fire so underrated

Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:38 pm to
Cameron sabotaged her own future, Donna's future, and all of their very loyal employees' futures by being a selfish, stubborn, childish bitch. The show was great at making you understand the characters and their motivations. But with Cam and Mutiny, it was just "I don't wanna. It's mine. So frick everyone else even though we have a chance to all become rich and pioneer an important part of home computing history." Her attitude and actions kind of ruined her for me for the rest of the show.
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:46 am to
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quote: Toby Huss is underrated in pretty much everything. Great in Carnivale.

Don't forget Kahn, Cotton, and Joe Jack from King of the Hill.


Don’t forget that the GOAT TV superhero.

Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:02 am to
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Don’t forget that the GOAT TV superhero.


Better than The Whiz?

Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21717 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:21 am to
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Literally s3 and s4 both up in the air for awhile


It sucked cuz Zack Whedon knew what he was doing



I think this speaks to how good the show actually was, and that AMC realized it...because NOBODY was watching it, and yet they still gave them four seasons.





SPOILERS:








The episode where Gordon dies is one of my favorite tv episodes. It’s beautiful, heartbreaking and just really well done.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 6:34 am
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20882 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 7:05 am to
My most memorable scene from the series was when the teen daughter, Haley, gets a crush on the older cool barista girl and musters up the courage to ask her out.

The way they shot it, they only suggested what Haley was going to do, but it was clear from the circumstances, and you didn't see the actual interaction. But it was heart breaking when Haley walked out of the shop in tears.

It was almost like a silent movie. They delivered a powerful scene with no dialog at all.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33080 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:47 am to
It was a good show, I was really into it at first but slowly lost interest. Ended up just looking up spoilers for the end because I was over it.

IMO the show tried too hard to be with the “anti-establishment” trope. Every character always had to be working against themselves and going against the grain to prove how smart they were, it got old after awhile.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:06 am to
SPOILERS -- maybe?

Toward the end it got a little ridiculous the way that this small group of people from Texas ended up on the forefront of so many tech breakthroughs during that time
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:39 pm to
Cam was that way but in the end she was right about not selling before making it better

She hold one hell of a grudge

Donna offered to have joe leave which was messed up but it was on her behalf after the fight with him and tom

So she makes Donna feel horrible right after she makes she got the gang back together

Cruel
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:02 pm to
Oh yea I think that was like 90 min or even 2 hour finale. Just fantastic

Which with commercials kinda equals 90 min

One person who's done well since is Joanie. Gordon's oldest. She's a rising star in hollywood
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:49 am to
I watched the first two seasons and thought the second was light years better than the first. I thought the show would be about ballsy Texas entrepreneurs in the early days of PCs. Not about a con man steering a business aground.
The second season was more about that.
I need to go back and finish the series. Maybe after I'm done with Broadchurch.
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1632 posts
Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:34 pm to
I just finished this series, binging it over the last week. Wow, it was seriously one of the best series I’ve ever seen. Lee Pace should have won awards for that character.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85416 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 9:51 am to
Great character development from start to finish. One of my top series of the last decade. Not sure about the scene where Joe unexpectedly pipes that bro because he can lol. Loved the Gordon character. It kind of hurts me that these aren’t real people, that’s how much I liked it.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:51 am to
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Toward the end it got a little ridiculous the way that this small group of people from Texas ended up on the forefront of so many tech breakthroughs during that time


Except they weren't. They were always in a mad dash to heat out the other people or companies that were also pioneering breakthroughs. And they lost out on the really big stuff.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:30 pm to
I love the show to death, and what I really love about it is that they allow each character to be a villain. Joe obviously has the most heel turns, but Donna basically destroys her own daughter's company, Cameron sabotages her own game by making it appeal to about five people, and Gordon... Jesus, poor Gordon.

Gordon is perhaps the greatest character in TV history. He is a near bundle of character flaws, and the show begins with his wife bailing him out of jail for being a drunk. But here's the thing: Gordon is punished for every one of his sins completely out of proportion to his culpability. He feels the world is unfairly out to get him and, well, he's kind of right. He's the one character that no one seems to ever let him forget the times he screwed up. He's never allowed to move past, even as he's the one who holds Mutiny together through his tireless hardware work (software is sexier, but Gordon made the stuff that it works on).

And despite all this, by the end of Season 4, he's finally happy. His wife has left him, his brother has rejected him, his ex in-laws have huilated him, his business partners have repeatedly screwed him over, he has a terminal disease... but he gets off the mat and finds joy in making a company with his daughter, just for fun. He doesn't care about money anymore, just joy. A guy who was crapped on my the TV gods for 4 straight seasons was somehow the happiest in the final season, as he tried to make himself into a better person, and a better father.

He dies doing two things he loved: starting over from scratch (the whiteboard scene is beautiful) but more importantly, fixing things with his hands. He fixed the AC. Ironically, it was that work with his hands which killed hm.

The episode AFTER he dies shows the hole he left, and no other character had that kind of impact on everyone. Gordon was a hero, and no one realized it for his whole life... not even Gordon.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38019 posts
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:37 pm to
Bishe is a dime
Posted by sol graves
Memphis
Member since Jun 2006
1742 posts
Posted on 9/19/20 at 8:49 am to
I am on season 3 and can’t stop. Season 1 is slow, but I read it gets better and better each season. It certainly does.

AMC has great shows with Halt, Turn, Hap and Leonard.
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