- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
A Thought on How James Bond Films Should be done...In Short, go back to the origins!
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:42 am
With all of the James Bond talk that has been going on, the fact of the manner is that James Bond was a character written from the Cold War in a time that was very politically incorrect for our times. Starz this month is running Bond films every day and all day which has been fun. I can't get enough of the Sean Connery films and even some of Roger Moore's first 3-4 films before he got too old....I personally find the political incorrectness refreshing to watch.
Bond Films have been around for over 50 years and it the character no longer resembles Ian Flemming's character because of the times we live in compared to back in the 50's, 60's and 70's.
My thought is instead of trying to somehow make Bond Films that are modern without addressing the fact that 007 would be around 100 years old still looking like a fit and trim man of his mid 30's to mid 40's, why not return to to the 60's and 70's and make a serious of films that continues the adventures of 007 that occurs between the movies?
What happened between Dr. No and From Russia with Love for example?
The neat thing about this is that it would not require leaning on FX to make the film work. I like the 60's and 70's tech that was used at that time. It would be more "Actor-Driven"which I think always make a film better...
Just a thought....Be gentle on the Thumbs Down...LOL
Bond Films have been around for over 50 years and it the character no longer resembles Ian Flemming's character because of the times we live in compared to back in the 50's, 60's and 70's.
My thought is instead of trying to somehow make Bond Films that are modern without addressing the fact that 007 would be around 100 years old still looking like a fit and trim man of his mid 30's to mid 40's, why not return to to the 60's and 70's and make a serious of films that continues the adventures of 007 that occurs between the movies?
What happened between Dr. No and From Russia with Love for example?
The neat thing about this is that it would not require leaning on FX to make the film work. I like the 60's and 70's tech that was used at that time. It would be more "Actor-Driven"which I think always make a film better...
Just a thought....Be gentle on the Thumbs Down...LOL
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 8:09 am
14
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:52 am to CU_Tigers4life
I’ve been saying the same thing for a long time. If you make them “of the period”, you don’t need to worry about the PC nonsense. Plus, the Cold War is a much better back drop. Go back to your roots Mr. Bond.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:04 am to CU_Tigers4life
I wouldn't mind seeing a Dr. No reboot.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:24 am to GetCocky11
Some of the recent novels have done this. I am in favor of it. Even the Connery movies were a time jump of sorts for the character based on when the novels were published; not much in some instances. The novels, in many instances, are unrecognizable from their cinematic counterparts—The Spy Who Loved Me in particular.
I think part of the issue is audience. Would younger generations flock to see movies when they have no cencept of the time period and can’t relate to the brutish nature of Bond as a sexist, mysoginistic dinosaur?
I think part of the issue is audience. Would younger generations flock to see movies when they have no cencept of the time period and can’t relate to the brutish nature of Bond as a sexist, mysoginistic dinosaur?
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:47 am to Michael T. Tiger
Jamaica was still officially a British colony when Dr. No was filmed in 1962.
I always thought that was incredible. I think a reboot and modernization of those earlier films could work.
I always thought that was incredible. I think a reboot and modernization of those earlier films could work.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:48 am to Michael T. Tiger
quote:
I think part of the issue is audience. Would younger generations flock to see movies when they have no cencept of the time period and can’t relate to the brutish nature of Bond as a sexist, mysoginistic dinosaur?
I think this young group of people are a lot more politically incorrect in their private thoughts than they are public.
You definitely would get a strong attendance from the over 50 crowd such as myself that grew up during the Cold War and Bond Films....We are still around...LOL
Bond is an international character and I think if shot in the spirit of the early Bond flicks could definitely work. If Americans want to have a bug up their arse about being PC so be it, the rest of the world would love old-school Bond.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:07 am to CU_Tigers4life
Doing a period piece set before the computer age would be difficult for a bond film. The old movies captured our imaginations because the spy tech was unlike anything we had seen or experienced as an audience.
Bonds gadgets were synonymous with the character and are what helped differentiate the stories from other typical spy novels.
You will loose that sense of wonder with today's audience.
Bonds gadgets were synonymous with the character and are what helped differentiate the stories from other typical spy novels.
You will loose that sense of wonder with today's audience.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:25 am to McChowder
quote:
Doing a period piece set before the computer age would be difficult for a bond film. The old movies captured our imaginations because the spy tech was unlike anything we had seen or experienced as an audience. Bonds gadgets were synonymous with the character and are what helped differentiate the stories from other typical spy novels. You will loose that sense of wonder with today's audience.
Great point. Not to take away from the OP's interesting idea, but this would be the biggest problem with this.
I mean, watch some of the old James Bond movies today. Look at the "tracking device" in Goldfinger. Back then, it was really something. Nowadays, people have similar technology on their smartphone.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:30 am to McChowder
quote:
Bonds gadgets were synonymous with the character and are what helped differentiate the stories from other typical spy novels.
You will loose that sense of wonder with today's audience.
I understand what you are saying but I am not sure I agree...
When you watch a modern western, does using six shooters, riding horses, etc affect your perception?
How about a modern period piece like "The Last Samauri"
I guess where I am going with that is that there has been so much time past since those days that it is truly a "period piece" compared to trying to associate it with modern times...
Here's another thought...at some point in these new series I propose, a piece of technology can be crated or discovered in the time of "Diamonds are Forever", which is Sean Connery's last True Ian Flemming JB role that could address the actor change in some way to justify Bond's ability to stay young for 50 years and wear the faces of many men over the years.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:26 am to CU_Tigers4life
I think a Bond period piece would be viable, although personally, I like it more as a companion to the more modern arc.
If you switch to only period films, I think the franchise loses some cache with modern audiences and gets dated fast.
Mixing a few period films would be new without dating the entire franchise. Just please don't make them reboots. If you tie to older films, make them companions to build off some of the iconic villains.
If you switch to only period films, I think the franchise loses some cache with modern audiences and gets dated fast.
Mixing a few period films would be new without dating the entire franchise. Just please don't make them reboots. If you tie to older films, make them companions to build off some of the iconic villains.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:34 am to CU_Tigers4life
If we're looking for an actor-driven, low tech, Cold War spy movie, can we not just keep adapting John le Carre novels? The Tinker, Tailor adaptation was brilliant, one of the best films of 2011.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:11 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Skyfall was a return to the old as was Spectre in some fashion.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 1:45 pm to CU_Tigers4life
they should do movies set in every era of British history
medeival bond for Edward 1
bond during the time of colonial revolution
bond during ww 2
medeival bond for Edward 1
bond during the time of colonial revolution
bond during ww 2
Posted on 9/14/18 at 2:58 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:I think this is a great suggestion. Even to remaking some of the older Bond/Fleming classics.
why not return to to the 60's and 70's and make a series of films that continues the adventures of 007 that occurs between the movies?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 3:09 pm to JawjaTigah
To me it is not important whether they are period or not. I think they need to be plot and character driven. A good solid plot. Lay off all the special effects. Special effect extravaganzas are boring.
I would like to see a Bond miniseries, one as solid as True Detective season one or the Fargo miniseries.
I would like to see a Bond miniseries, one as solid as True Detective season one or the Fargo miniseries.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 3:30 pm to GetCocky11
quote:
Jamaica was still officially a British colony when Dr. No was filmed in 1962
And had not become a shithole yet.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:57 pm to udtiger
They need to find a young actor in his early to mid 20s and sign him up for an 8-10 picture deal. Have him be recruited as the new 007 in the first movie in the mid 60s when the old 007 does on a mission or something and follow him into the mid to late 80s. Heck make his last scene as Bond take place at the fall of the Berlin Wall and he retires to let a new agent take on the mantle of 007 in a world with new threats (Middle East).
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:30 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
A Thought on How James Bond Films Should be done...In Short, go back to the origins!
I agree. If genetic cloning should ethically be used, then clone us a Sean Connery and kick this thing off, again.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:59 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
. It would be more "Actor-Driven"which I think always make a film better...
Good luck getting that greenlit in today's movie environment.
If it's an action film without over-the-top action, no studio is going to touch it. Just look at the comic-book movies and all the $$$ and just look at the latest Mission Impossible...
Lets not even talk about the jump...
That motorcycle chase scene through Paris felt like it was almost half the movie.
That's the modern template...less talkie-talk and 75% aCtion.
Old Bond the action was brief - it didn't hog the whole movie.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:32 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
When you watch a modern western, does using six shooters, riding horses, etc affect your perception?
How about a modern period piece like "The Last Samauri"
I guess where I am going with that is that there has been so much time past since those days that it is truly a "period piece" compared to trying to associate it with modern times...
I understand what you're saying but a very large part of what defined a Bond movie were the gadgets. It was a driving force in the continuation of the series. Anticipation of what new car he was going to drive or what new tech Q was going to come up with is what helped drive audience's interest.
None of that will work in a period piece.
Can you spin a good spy yarn set in the 60's? Yeah, sure, absolutely. But would it be the start of "Bond" series people will continually want to invest in? I dont know about that.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News