re: A Song of Ice and Fire (GoT "I read the book" thread)

The Song has to do with whatever passage of text Rhaegar read I've always taken it. (Most likely the same passage in the Jade Compendium that Maester Aemon highlighted for Jon before he left for Oldtown). He either believed himself to be the prince who was promised, R'hllor, or he believed it would be his spawn with the Wolf girl Lyanna. After reading he decided to take up arms and learn combat, up until that point he had been a studious nerdy kid.

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After the way the series has skipped over some of the more obvious hints and foreshadowings regarding Jon, I'm wondering if Ned's dream of the Tower of Joy is going to be included in Ep 8. If so, book readers may well learn a thing or two that hasn't been perfectly clear. Ned's remarks to Bran that Arthur Dayne was the greatest of the old Kingsguard and that he would have killed Ned if not for Howland Reed always struck me as deliberately vague. Did Reed help Ned kill Dayne or did he convince Dayne that his cause was lost and he should either kill himself or flee across the narrow sea; either way allowing Ned to fulfill Dayne's "mission" at the ToJ. They eventually returned the greatsword Dawn to the Dayne family but does that prove definitively that he's dead? And what reason did they give the family for his absence from the Battle of the Bells or of the Trident? The more I think about it the more this seems like a glaring hole in the plot. Half the Kingsguard sat out the war that destroyed the Targ dynasty and no one ever wondered why?

Random little question:

Do you guys think Chatayya or Shea will still be involved in Tyrion's story later on or will one of those roles be filled by Ros?

Oh yeah, she is the porn star they cast right?

whats up with the additional chapter "theon"? I just remembered it was back there. thanks.

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Just finished the chapter in Storm of Swords where Dany gets her army of Unsullied

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You had to see that coming huh?

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The producers have at least mentioned the possibility of two seasons for ASOS



No chance. If that happens, I'll buy you a beer.

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just stumbled across this, I couldn't find it the other day:

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HBO's new fantasy series "Game of Thrones" has been renewed, our Rick Kissell writes, and George R. R. Martin has an announcement of his own on his blog: the novelist, who writes one teleplay per season, will pen the Battle of the Blackwater, a huge army/navy slugfest that takes up several chapters in the second book, "A Clash of Kings" (and could be, um, expensive).

"David & Dan give me the easy stuff," he writes, presumably facetiously.

This is great news for Martin and for the show's insta-fanbase, but one question a lot of folks who've read the books have been asking is how in the world they're going to do a third season of this series. "A Storm of Swords" is 1100 pages long and there's not a page without some vital piece of information.

When I interviewed David Benioff and D. B. (Dan) Weiss a few weeks ago, they said they'd either need a much longer season (which isn't really an option given the length of the seasons in Northern Ireland, where Winter Really Is Coming, nearly all of the time), or they'd need to split the book into two parts. The latter is more likely - they'd already picked a spot for the division. All I'll say is that it would end season 3 on a particuarly heartless cliffhanger.

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They make it sound like it is the second half of AFFC, which means it isn't nearly as good as the first 3 in their view.

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Isnt that common knowledge? That ADWD is the other side of AFFC. Martin even says as much at the end of AFFC

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It will take both the Starks and the Targaryens to save Westeros so I always thought it referred to those two families.

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Agreed. The Dragons are coming and I can't imagine the Stark line just fading away - too much character development early for that to happen, IMO. Still, after reading AFFC and all before that, one may wonder... Jon or maybe Bran, Arya and Sansa must be keys to whatever is coming in the next two books. Surely, "just so..." (I hope). Can't wait for the next two books (how long can Martin stretch this out?).