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re: A Few Good Men is anti-military propaganda.

Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:06 am to
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It was a direct attack on the military, Christianity, and the entire warrior culture.


cry about it a little more why don't you.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:19 am to
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Now G.I. Jane, my two brothers in law in the Navy hate that movie.

That has nothing to do with them being military, that's just because GI Jane is a terrible movie.
Posted by Bumble Bee
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:20 am to
I Strenuously object.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:51 am to
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but Aaron Sorkin is a lefty.


stand there in your fa.gg.ity whites and say that sailor!!!

This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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It was a direct attack on the military, Christianity, and the entire warrior culture.


Remind me which part is an attack on Christianity again.....
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:12 pm to
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You know it was based on a play written by Aaron Sorkin right, who adapted his play for the screen? And is also the creator of The West Wing, and The Newsroom, in addition to other idealized ideas of what a leftist run world should look like? And is also a noted mushroom abuser???? Seriously, I'm not sure it is anti-military, but Aaron Sorkin is a lefty.

Don't forget The American President, which even Obama called "an Aaron Sorkin liberal fantasy.

Great movie, but yeah. Everything that comes out if that guy has some kind of left wing spin.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:37 pm to
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I Strenuously object


Oh. You strenuously object. Then I'll take some time and reconsider.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
Didn't the Corps of Cadets do the opening scene as the Silent Drill Platoon?



Also, I used to be in Rifle Security Company GTMO, movie is bullshite. He doesn't eat breakfast 500 yards from 3000 Cubans trained to kill him.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:39 pm to
I think it's a mixed bag. The movie said a lot of things that needed to be said but also generally from an antagonists POV that was shown to be out of line. So it depends on if the focus is the message or the messenger.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Remind me which part is an attack on Christianity again.....

Not a huge deal, but the movie went out of its way to depict Kendrick, one of the worst antagonists, as a Christian. Seems like there was a few other things but can't recall ATM.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:47 pm to
The Code
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:57 pm to
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Not a huge deal, but the movie went out of its way to depict Kendrick, one of the worst antagonists, as a Christian. Seems like there was a few other things but can't recall ATM.



I can't even say that was an attack on Christianity; it was more to show Kendrick as a self serving hypocrite.

He said the only two books he had were the Marine Corps Code of Conduct and the King James Bible but violated the basic tenets of both.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:58 pm to
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prplhze2000


You sir are like the worst poster on this entire forum. You and TigerRhyno together bring this place down.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:00 pm to
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They deem that shite for everything that doesnt suck major military peen while waving an America frick yea flag.


Independence Day couldn't get DoD support because they refused to drop the Area 51 part from the story.

At that time the base still "didn't exist"

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:01 pm to
Yet that pile of garbage Battle: Los Angeles got everything they wanted.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:02 pm to
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He's not totally wrong. When the DoD read the script, they deemed that it portrayed the military in a bad light and therefore refused to endorse it (a DoD endorsement usually means that you are allowed to use equipment or personnel that are still in service).



Yeah he's not wrong at all. The movie is very heavy handed but I still think its a damn good movie.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:09 pm to
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I can't even say that was an attack on Christianity; it was more to show Kendrick as a self serving hypocrite.


It was exactly this. People who try to look at this as an attack on Christianity are just looking for a crusade.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:31 pm to
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You really think that the DoD is going to endorse a film in which one of the major plot points is the hazing death of a Soldier endorsed by and covered up by the entire chain of command?!




I just said that unless you fellatiate the military the DOD aint gonna approve your flick.


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On its core, it's the typical, "only the young Soldier/rebel Lieutenant can save the day from the evil Colonel/General" motife.



No, it isnt.

Its a power corruption flick at its core. It doesn't matter that it was set on a military base because the basic narrative of a coverup due to hazing gone wrong would work if it was a cop movie, a sports flick, or simply about a frat.

Just because its set on a base and the bad guy is a general doesn't make it anti military just like how The Rock isn't anti military even though a bunch of soldiers and a hero general go rouge.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:38 pm to
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Independence Day couldn't get DoD support because they refused to drop the Area 51 part from the story.

At that time the base still "didn't exist"



If you want their approval you have to do everything they say. It's just like how if you want to do a football movie and want the NFL to let you use their logos you have to do whatever they want.

and of course they wouldn't approve something that admitted Area 51 was real. It had been denied for so long approved ID would essentially be an admission that they had been lying all this time. No power structure likes to do that.
Posted by Tom288
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Don't forget The American President


I still enjoy that movie with the exception of his speech at the end. The funny thing is, growing up I thought that's an awesome, charismatic speech. Now I'm like, "You are batshit crazy Mr. President!"

The environmental strain running through the movie doesn't really bother me, but the whole "I'm gonna get the guns" shite is just

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I can't even say that was an attack on Christianity; it was more to show Kendrick as a self serving hypocrite.

He said the only two books he had were the Marine Corps Code of Conduct and the King James Bible but violated the basic tenets of both.



This. He gives his little speech about "THE KING JAMES BIBLE" but is perfectly willing to place his hand on it, swear to tell the truth, and then lie his arse off. He's nothing but a hypocritical coward.

As far as Col. Jessup, I could have at least empathized with his position had he not tried to cover it up and instead took full responsibility for the Code Red.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 1:49 pm
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