re: 1899 Discussion Thread (New Show on Netflix from the Creators of Dark) - SPOILERS!

Just finished, and I’m both really intrigued and fairly frustrated about the show. Let me first say that I’ve never watched any of these shows. I wasn’t a Lost person or West World or Dark or whatever so maybe this was just normal, but I feel like this show took the term twist and just threw napalm on it.

Like, I get and like when a show does some sleight of hand, but I left that episode wondering if any single second of what we watched was real. There were almost too many twists, too many faints to really make things hit home hard.

One thing I did think was interesting was I don’t think (should maybe go rewatch the ending) that Maura’s husband, sun, OR father were in the tank at the end with the headset on. Everyone else (outside of the redhead bearded dude with the control device, who has to be her brother, right?) was hooked up to the simulation.

I wonder why she was the only one who had such major characters from her life play key roles in the simulation. I also think there’s some connection between her and the captain. Their relationship is just way too strong and touchy Deely. Originally I thought that she’d had an affair with him, that led to her getting pregnant with the boy, and she’d done some sort of experiment to try to make herself forget that her husband wasn’t the father. Clearly that wasn’t right, but they’re very very close in almost every scene, or maybe I’m reading too much into it.

I guess we’ll see in a couple years lol.

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they never explained why those Amish type people were treated so poorly or why they were on the ship to begin with. I get that they were poor and religious zealots but they were treated extremely poorly with no real explanation.

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That’s how the lower class were treated on ships back then. If you’ve ever seen Titanic, it’s the same concept.

Best show I've seen in a few years. Loved it. Wish season 2 was out now.

I started Dark after watching this

Man those last few episodes were wild. Dark is still superior but 1899 was really good. The ticking scene

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I wonder why Daniel and Elliot didn't try to make Maura remember everything sooner? Like, why was Elliot silent for so damn long?

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One aspect of the Allegory of the Cave is that the people experiencing a simulated version of reality will violently resist believing the truth when confronted with the facts that they are not experiencing reality and the world is really something else. I can't remember, maybe Daniel explained this part to Maura from within the simulation?

Also note, this was a key part of The Matrix. When Morpheus was showing Neo his mini version of the matrix, he said this:

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The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

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This idea is straight from Allegory of the Cave!

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Dark is still superior but 1899 was really good.

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Dark seems decent, definitely slower. I knocked out 3 episodes last night. Hopefully it picks up

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One aspect of the Allegory of the Cave is that the people experiencing a simulated version of reality will violently resist believing the truth when confronted with the facts that they are not experiencing reality and the world is really something else.

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Ahhh, right, right.

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One thing...what quetions was she supposed to ask the creator?

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I think the question you need to ask yourself is who is the creator?


one thing that I think is worth noting is that when you watch with subtitles, every single person that had the "dream" and woke up from it with the camera view coming out of their eye, there was someone that said "wake up" to each of them. Maura is who was saying "wake up".


I still think the simulation was created to see if they could successfully remove a memory from their brain, as if it never happened.
Elliot died in real life, and Maura is trying to see if it's possible to completely remove that memory from her brain. There's a reason Elliot's room in the simulation was accessed by a grave. Same with the all the others who were in the ship at the end and under the simulation. They all have a memory they want to forget.

but i'm just guessing at that.

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Didn't Maura's father say the simulation kept failing because every time, everyone makes their choices based on love or emotions (something like that) instead of rationality or logic (something like that)?

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yes