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re: You want expansion? You HAD expansion
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:54 am to TX Tiger
Posted on 1/2/22 at 7:54 am to TX Tiger
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quote: just a random assortment of the good teams and the title goes to whoever has the most media hype.
Not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying Alabama is better than Cincinnati because of media hype?
He saying that it used to be no real playoff as teams were assigned final games by conference affiliation. Bama is better than Cincinnati because they beat them on the field.
We wouldn’t have been able to see that in the old format. In fact, we wouldn’t have seen either of the matchups we saw Friday but rather a bunch of teams separated by 4-6 poll positions. And only 1 of those teams would have played any of the others during the regular season.
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 8:13 am to TX Tiger
“Every game counts” is nonsense dude. It’s a schtick. The eye test will take over to ensure that the brand names get in.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 8:19 am to TX Tiger
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What if the team that won the first time, loses the second time? (BTW, that's exactly what has happened every time there's been a rematch).
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:47 am to emoney
quote:I watched the games on the field for 12 consecutive weeks. Where were you?
and instead of watching the games on the field, we get to let the media decide who they like most
quote:Who decides the 4 teams in the playoffs? Asking for a TCU friend.
we get to let the media decide who they like most. That’s your argument here.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:55 am to TX Tiger
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Or 2004 Auburn?
When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in. That's why every single game mattered.
Go back and look at the complete season schedules and results for 2004 Auburn, USC and Oklahoma. Then come back and tell us how 2004 Auburn didn't do enough.
Until then, GTFO of here with this BS.....
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:02 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:Everyone paying attention knows Auburn didn't want to be in that game. That's why when picking bowl games, the experts put high emphasis on which team wants to be there. It's a factor which is obvious to real fans. Casual fans don't understand this.
Besides, if you thought that 2017 UCF had any chance against either Alabama or Georgia, then you don't really pay that much attention to college football.
2017 UCF beat Auburn in the Peach Bowl. The same Auburn team that beat Bama by 12 in the Iron Bowl and the same Auburn team that beat Georgia by 23 in the DSOR.
Let me help you: Under GOAT Nick Saban, Alabama is 12-2 in playoff/championship games. In the last 5 bowl games in which Alabama was not involved in the playoffs, they are 2-3.
You're welcome.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:18 pm to mdomingue
quote:That was a very very unusual year. But you already knew that.
And I guess you also think the 1984 BYU Cougars deserved that national Championship as well?
BYU was the only undefeated team in the country (unless you count Cal State Fullerton). In fact, only Washington finished with just 1 loss. Florida finished with 1 loss and 1 tie. Every other team in the country had at least 2 losses.
BYU beat No. 3, was the only undefeated team and won its bowl game.
So, yes, they did as much or more to deserve the national title as anyone.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:18 pm to Jim Rockford
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Mel Kiper deserves a big portion of the blame for his constant shilling for an NFL lite college playoff.
Please.Playoffs were inevitable no matter what Mel Kiper said.The old bowl system was a ridiculous way to decide
a NC.Most CFB fans along with the sports media were clamoring for a playoff.
It's done on every other level
of FB and in every other college sport.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:32 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Be better.
When they didn't do enough over the 10, 11, 12-game playoff that was built-in.
Those teams mentioned won every game on their schedule. What else more could they do?
Cincinnati won all its games, too. Anyone who's watched more than 1 college football game knew they had no business on the same field with Alabama...or Georgia for that matter.
Casual fans wouldn't know that. Someone will have to explain to me why the game is being diluted to appease the casual fan.
Nevermind, I already know the answer. $$$$$$$$$
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:33 pm to TX Tiger
This is the perfect example of false placation.
Person A says they want x. Person B says, well, you can’t have x, but here’s y! Person A doesn’t like y because y is not x. Person B says see, you didn’t like your y, clearly you shouldn’t have ever asked for x!
This is most frequently seen in parenting (we have food at home meme) and in politics.
People demanded a real playoff where spots are earned in a non-biased manner. They were given a 4 team invitational where the spots are determined by a shadowy cabal of biased individuals. The failure of the “playoff” we were given is now being used as evidence for why what was demanded shouldn’t be given. Odds are, this current playoff system was either engineered to fail from the beginning or made by people who are absolutely clueless about what fans of every school not named “Alabama” enjoy about college football.
Person A says they want x. Person B says, well, you can’t have x, but here’s y! Person A doesn’t like y because y is not x. Person B says see, you didn’t like your y, clearly you shouldn’t have ever asked for x!
This is most frequently seen in parenting (we have food at home meme) and in politics.
People demanded a real playoff where spots are earned in a non-biased manner. They were given a 4 team invitational where the spots are determined by a shadowy cabal of biased individuals. The failure of the “playoff” we were given is now being used as evidence for why what was demanded shouldn’t be given. Odds are, this current playoff system was either engineered to fail from the beginning or made by people who are absolutely clueless about what fans of every school not named “Alabama” enjoy about college football.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:35 pm to TX Tiger
Lol no. March Madness SHITS all over college football then and now.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:37 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Anyone with a functioning brain knew Alabama was better than Cincinnati. Putting them on the same field was unnecessary except to appease the casual fan who obviously paid no attention to the regular season. Because if they had, they would already know what a farce it was.
Bama is better than Cincinnati because they beat them on the field. We wouldn’t have been able to see that in the old format. I
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:38 pm to TX Tiger
Did Michigan? They lost by more and would’ve been in the hunt under the old rules. Likely would’ve won it having played Utah in the rose.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:38 pm to TX Tiger
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Be better.
That’s not possible if one is already winning all of their games. They’re already pulled over; they can’t pull over any farther. Programs have very limited control over their strength of schedule. You can’t beat the best if you cannot schedule them. A post-season system that excludes unbeaten teams is a complete joke. Those teams might as well not exist because no matter what they do, they have zero ability to earn a shot to prove if they are good enough or not.
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Cincinnati won all its games, too. Anyone who's watched more than 1 college football game knew they had no business on the same field with Alabama...or Georgia for that matter.
Did we really know that, though? We saw Cincinnati take down Notre Dame. We saw Notre Dame beat Georgia a couple seasons ago. While most of us expected Alabama to win, that doesn’t mean that Cincinnati was so grossly inferior that there exists no scenario where they could win. Alabama nearly lost to both LSU and Auburn who are each 6-6. Auburn lost to Houston, whom Cincinnati defeated. We could not be sure that Cincinnati would lose to Alabama until they did.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:48 pm to kingbob
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We saw Notre Dame beat Georgia a couple seasons ago.
We did? What season was that?
quote:
post-season system that excludes unbeaten teams is a complete joke
It obviously depends on their schedule and if being unbeaten
is a standard then say hello to playing as many cupcakes as
You can schedule.
quote:
Alabama nearly lost to both LSU and Auburn who are each 6-6. Auburn lost to Houston, whom Cincinnati defeated. We could not be sure that Cincinnati would lose to Alabama until they did.
Have you not learned that transitive property means exactly nothing in CFB?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:53 pm to TX Tiger
Simmer down.
CFB is the minor leagues for the NFL. Just like the minor leagues for other sports, the NFL minor league players now get paid.
Nobody plays for "Rah-Rah-Rah. Sis-Boom-Bah. Go Alma Mater", anymore. The players play football because of what football can do FOR them. They don't play for altruistic reasons.
CFB is the minor leagues for the NFL. Just like the minor leagues for other sports, the NFL minor league players now get paid.
Nobody plays for "Rah-Rah-Rah. Sis-Boom-Bah. Go Alma Mater", anymore. The players play football because of what football can do FOR them. They don't play for altruistic reasons.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:04 pm to PhineasFreakaZoid
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March Madness SHITS all over college football then and now.
And the regular season is a joke.
CFB revenue dwarfs college basketball revenue.
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:04 pm to kingbob
quote:You're right. There's absolutely no difference between Alabama beating Georgia, and Cincinnati beating Tulane. None.
Be better.
That’s not possible if one is already winning all of their games.
quote:You're right. It's a crime that Mary Hardin-Baylor was not invited, they went 15-0.
A post-season system that excludes unbeaten teams is a complete joke.
quote:Hint: There's usually a good reason teams play in the conferences they're in.
Those teams might as well not exist because no matter what they do, they have zero ability to earn a shot to prove if they are good enough or not.
quote:Anyone who's watched more than 1 college football game in their lives did. But that's not everyone is it.
Cincinnati won all its games, too. Anyone who's watched more than 1 college football game knew they had no business on the same field with Alabama...or Georgia for that matter.
Did we really know that, though?
quote:If you're a casual fan, who really doesn't care about the game, you would have needed them to play to find out.
We could not be sure that Cincinnati would lose to Alabama until they did.
As I said before, someone is going to have to explain to me why the product is being diluted to appease the casual fan, who really doesn't care about it either way.
We all know the answer....$$$$$$$$$
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:21 pm to Champagne
quote:You are correct, sir. Pride, loyalty and teamwork have been successfully socially engineered out of our society.
Nobody plays for "Rah-Rah-Rah. Sis-Boom-Bah. Go Alma Mater", anymore. The players play football because of what football can do FOR them. They don't play for altruistic reasons.
Does anyone consider this progress?
Posted on 1/2/22 at 1:28 pm to TX Tiger
2004 Auburn went undefeated and didn’t get to play for a championship.
How was that a playoff
How was that a playoff
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 1:28 pm
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