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Would you rather Marcus Freeman or Billy Napier as your head coach?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:28 pm
Odds are at least one of these guys will be a flop. Who would you bet on if it was your school?
Billy has head coaching experience but if you look at it, the hot g5 coach misses a good bit more often than they hit when stepping up to p5.
Freeman could be the next Aranda, but more often these hot coordinators end up like Will Muschamp.
Billy has head coaching experience but if you look at it, the hot g5 coach misses a good bit more often than they hit when stepping up to p5.
Freeman could be the next Aranda, but more often these hot coordinators end up like Will Muschamp.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Notre Dame for a first time head coach? It's not gonna go well.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I don’t have high hopes for either. But I am a Notre Dame fan so I hope Freeman works out.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think the upside is higher with Freeman. ND has been recruiting off the charts in his first full cycle and I feel like young promising OCs are in constant supply these days to pair with him.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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if you look at it, the hot g5 coach misses a good bit more often than they hit when stepping up to p5.
so do first time head coaches at major programs. Head coaching hires, in general, miss more than they hit big
I think it's close to a push as to who I'd rather have, but I think I'd give the tie-breaker to Freeman for now as he, so far, has recruited circles around Napier. Honestly, they're completely different types of coaches so it's hard to say.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Napier. I think Notre Dame fricked up by not hiring Luke Fickell and they will have to ask him nicely again 4 years from now.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Only One has successful head coaching experience and been to bowl games, and worked under some really good coaches at some really good programs. That one is the one to bet on. The other may wind up a superstar but lots of big recruiters have failed as head coaches.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:43 pm to lsufball19
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so do first time head coaches at major programs. Head coaching hires, in general, miss more than they hit big
It worked at Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia, among others.
Head coaching hires in general miss more than hit.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Freeman.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:48 pm to VADawg
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I think Notre Dame fricked up by not hiring Luke Fickell and they will have to ask him nicely again 4 years from now.
Agree but they would have been crucified by the media if they passed on Freeman
That being said Freeman wasnt a bad hire, Fickell just feels like a possible top 5 head coach
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:49 pm to WMTigerFAN
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and worked under some really good coaches at some really good programs
Freeman has coached under Jim Tressell at OSU, Luke Fickell at Cincinnati, and Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. Napier coached under Dabo early in Dabo's career and under Saban. I'd call that a push regarding them coaching under good coaches at good programs.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:50 pm to KosmoCramer
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It worked at Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia, among others.
Head coaching hires in general miss more than hit.
So you're agreeing with me?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
ND should go 9-3 this year, losing to OSU, splitting Clemson and USC, then one upset (UNC or BYU is my guess). If Freeman can hold it together after OSU week 1 and actually finishes 9-3 or better then he has a chance to long term be successful. If the wheels come off early in the season he is toast. Blowing the lead against Okie State will haunt him.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:54 pm to lionward2014
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If the wheels come off early in the season he is toast.
That's going to be really unlikely with their schedule. After OSU to open the season, they have Marshall, Cal, UNC, BYU, Stanford, UNLV, and Syracuse. I'd be pretty floored if Notre Dame started the season worse than 6-2 (and honestly expect them to start 7-1), and I really have a hard time seeing them go worse than 8-4 overall.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Napier because he at least has been a Head Coach, Freeman seemed like a rush hire to keep the staff from bolting to LSU
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I think Napier, while he has more experience, is more in over his head. Freeman is a great DC, elite recruiter, and they grow modern OCs on trees these days.
Napier seems like he's going to micromanage and overthink his way out of a job. Georgia winning a title and Miami turning their machine around has turned the heat up to 10000 degrees in Gainesville too.
Napier seems like he's going to micromanage and overthink his way out of a job. Georgia winning a title and Miami turning their machine around has turned the heat up to 10000 degrees in Gainesville too.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:11 pm to lsufball19
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So you're agreeing with me?
I'm saying all hires, regardless of previous experience, are usually not great, and miss more than hit.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:14 pm to CatfishJohn
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Miami turning their machine around
again? Didn't they just fire another head coach last year? I don't think anyone can say they've turned their machine around until they actually start having good football seasons at least two years in a row. And they haven't done that in 20 years. They've had one lone 10 win season since 2003. Maybe Cristobal will be that guy. But that state is still wide open for any of Florida, FSU, or Miami to take over.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:15 pm to KosmoCramer
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I'm saying all hires, regardless of previous experience, are usually not great, and miss more than hit.
I literally said the same exact thing in the post you quoted. Like almost word for word
My post
quote:
Head coaching hires, in general, miss more than they hit big
Your post
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Head coaching hires in general miss more than hit.
So we are in agreement, no?
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 2:15 pm to Dubosed
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Notre Dame for a first time head coach? It's not gonna go well.
compared to Florida who plays in the SEC? & opens the season against Utah?
To be fair, it is a good question. Outside of 2 games, Notre Dame has a very cupcake schedule. I can tell you they have no business being ranked #5 with a first year coach. I think Florida will have a more difficult year with a first time head coach, but that doesn't mean Freeman is better.
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