re: Would you rather have Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton as your head coach?

the 49ers were what KC was last year. A team with a lot of good players, but with a crappy head coach.

In the final year before harbaugh, they had just drafted these players who are still on the team:
Anthony Davis (OT)
Mike Iupati (OG)
Navorro Bowman (ILB)
Anthony Dixon (RB)

They had on that team and still have on their current team some notable players:
Michael Crabtree
Vernon Davis
Frank Gore
Alex Boone
Joe Staley
Justin Smith
Ahmad Brooks
Patrick Willis
Andy Lee

It's not like he inherited nothing, that's 12 starters right there and a reserve.

In '11 they drafted
Aldon Smith
Colin Kaepernick
Chris Culliver
Kendall Hunter

He's a damn good coach, but I'm taking CSP based on his 8 year resume vs. harbaugh's 3 year resume.

I mean look at Rex Ryan. Went to AFC championship in '09 and '10 and then fell off due to failure at the QB position and his defensive players getting old. Consistency/longevity over time is important as well. if harbaugh keeps it up for another 3 years with the same results, I'd take harbaugh.

Nobody said that he didn't inherit a lot of talent, but taking over a team that had been on an 8 year playoff drought and going 14-4, 13-5-1 and 14-5 with 3 straight NFCCG appearances is pretty impressive no matter who you're talking about.

I'd lean Payton until Harbaugh proves he can win the big one and leave his imprint on a team.

Both seem to have an eye for talent, but I'd like a bigger track record from Harbaugh before putting him on Payton's track. And if you want to argue that Payton's obscure offensive picks only play well because of his system then I fail to see how that isn't another credit to him as a coach. There are only 7 rounds in the draft, plus UDFAs, after that its coaching coaching coaching to make sure you get the right mix.

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harbaugh is winning with an already loaded team. payton rebuilt this franchise.

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They weren't winning before he got there

And who convinced Brees to come to NOLA?

has anyone said either one? I dont think you can go wrong with either coach.

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one magical year doesn't equate to automatic superiority

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cemented by 36-32

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So one year doesn't matter but one (away) game does? Got it

Don't get me wrong. Harbaugh is a nice coach. But the name of the game is winning a championship.

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And he also found Kaepernick,

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And SP found Drew Brees just coming off what should have been a career ending injury when no one else wanted him. Brees under SP has been epic ever since.

Point: Payton

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Harbaugh inherited a 6-10 team with no QB and Carroll inherited a 5-11 team with no QB

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Payton inherited a disaster zone and in the first year was one game away from the Superbowl.

edt: Any coach who can go to the NFCCG with 3 starting white LB's his first year has got my vote

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Have you seen the players on that defense?.. SP came in and cleaned house after Katrina and went to the NFC title game with a 7th rounder starting at WR and a group of misfits on D.. Deuce and Drew were the only note worthy players on that team.. Its funny that people are laughing off what Harbaugh inherited, i think an entire unit beats out 1 player any day of the week.. all he has to do is make sure his QB doesn't turn the ball over and he's basically a guaranteed a playoff spot with a beast of a running back that he also inherited

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That's why I said recent years. Some of you seem to forget the Saints Super Bowl win was four years ago.

Also this whole 'Katrina' thing. It's not like Payton had to get out the hammer and nails and rebuild the city himself. There were some early logistical struggles, sure, but don't confuse things with emotion.

Harbaugh easily. Look at what each has done since Harbaugh entered the league