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re: Worst QB to ever have 2 rings as a starter?

Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by Tokey McPine
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:05 pm to
Eli >

This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 12:06 pm
Posted by bamfchris
the flats
Member since May 2010
461 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:07 pm to
I believe t suggs and the Ravens would have had something to say about the steelers winning the superbowl if they made the playoffs... and didnt drop both games to them in the regular season.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 12:14 pm to
Don't you casty me....I'm not an expert geneologist, answer the question.

Is it because they have different middle names?


Eta: just realized my mistake, haha


So why isn't Eli the IV ??
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 12:16 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:46 pm to
People seem to neglect how hard it is to win road games during the playoffs. That's why teams fight so hard for home field advantage.


The Giants have been on the road every game during their two super bowl-winning Postseasons.

For a QB to win in everyone else's yards during these postseasons is a very large argument for "elite".

Can anyone else name a QB that is 6-0 on the road in postseason? And I'm obviously not including the Super Bowl because that's considered to be "neutral".....even though the Giants were still considered the "away" team.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:49 pm to
They were home against Atlanta this year. But they said last night that Eli has 7 road playoff wins, which tied the record.
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:50 pm to
They curbstomped the Falcons at home.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36697 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

starting QBs with 2 or more wins:

Elway
Brady
Bradshaw
Montana
Staubach
Aikman
Griese
Roethlisberger
Starr
Plunkett
E. Manning


quality list

I don't know how good Griese was but would wonder about him

Big Ben is a turd but a good QB. Eli looks like a paste eater but turning into a great QB.

Elway was fantastic as a younger player but a fraction of that when he finally won those Super Bowls on TD's back.

There are no bad QBs on that list
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:51 pm to
quote:


They were home against Atlanta this year. But they said last night that Eli has 7 road playoff wins, which tied the record.




well damn....forgot about that.


Also didn't think about his other playoff appearances which might have been on the road and lost.


I'm still hungover.....carry on.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:52 pm to
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Elway was fantastic as a younger player but a fraction of that when he finally won those Super Bowls on TD's back.



this....and is why TD got MVP one of those.
Posted by NewtonReb
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:10 pm to
Eli's mom is named Olivia Williams Manning. Maiden name is Williams....

Now, Archie's mom's maiden name was Nelson.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
41658 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:29 pm to
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Why are you bunching Ben with Eli. Ben is actually a good QB and has the #s to back it up. Eli has a career 82 QB rating.


Because everytime Big Ben or Eli's names are brought up, it is always followed with they are only good because of the defense of the team they play on is better than the other team. In every case it's used to discredit Ben or Eli. It's just a ridiculous argument.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:35 pm to
Elway
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19151 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Because everytime Big Ben or Eli's names are brought up, it is always followed with they are only good because of the defense of the team they play on is better than the other team. In every case it's used to discredit Ben or Eli. It's just a ridiculous argument.


The argument is ridiculous to say about Ben but its the absolute truth when it comes to Eli. The #s back this up Big Ben is a great player Eli isn't
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5479 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:54 pm to
The correct answer is Plunkett and its not even close
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 3:18 pm to
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Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36697 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 3:21 pm to
quote:


The correct answer is Plunkett and its not even close


even tho he was a Super Bowl MVP?

I haven't really looked at his career numbers
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 3:23 pm to
did Eli rape your mother?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34160 posts
Posted on 2/6/12 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

quote:

The correct answer is Plunkett and its not even close


even tho he was a Super Bowl MVP?

I haven't really looked at his career numbers


Still puts him behind Eli. Eli = 2 SB MVPs
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