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re: Woj: Silver Exploring "Nuclear" Option on Sterling
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:30 am to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:30 am to Cajun Revolution
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Black people need to get over it and quit acting like they never had an old white person act racist. The only difference is this one has money and doesn't drive an old.caddilac. Two days of outrage is enough. You want to piss Sterling off? Go to the games.
I love it. The old racist is going to continue to be a racist. Everyone else needs to adjust to him. Everyone else is the problem.
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:31 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:We'll agree to disagree. If you say that, then are outraged when said owner shows off his moral compass, IMO, that's inconsistent.
I'm saying that the owners' moral compass cannot be a huge factor in determining where to play/coach if you're serious about winning in this league
quote:No, it's not. They had a choice, gonna need a better hypothetical, that one doesn't fit.
That's akin to the old "massa clothes us, he feeds us..." line of thought from more oppressive times
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:33 am to Goldrush25
quote:It's so great.
I love it. The old racist is going to continue to be a racist. Everyone else needs to adjust to him. Everyone else is the problem
Serious question, can a person have that thought process you just outlined without being at least partially racist themselves, or prejudiced? It's hard to see a scenario where a non-prejudiced person has that viewpoint.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:35 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Because their job is to try to win an NBA championship, not evaluate the morals of the owner.
that's a fine standard. i'll accept it.
why are they evaluating the morals now, then? either way you slice the baby, the argument holds true
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:35 am to shel311
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If you say that, then are outraged when said owner shows off his moral compass, IMO, that's inconsistent.
No. Working for someone, especially when it's one of the precious few niches in an ultra competitive market, is not condoning of management's moral compass in the slightest. It does not absolve management from being bigoted, nor does it rob the employee of the permission to be incensed over continued bigotry.
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No, it's not. They had a choice, gonna need a better hypothetical, that one doesn't fit.
Nope, that one fit fine.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That's what I'm trying to understand, how is that consistent?
that's a fine standard. i'll accept it.
why are they evaluating the morals now, then?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:38 am to Goldrush25
No but on the list of offensive shite Sterling has said over the years, this is like really scrubbing the bottom of the barrell.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Whoa there, i never said signing with him equald condoning it. It does equal turning a blind eye to it then, but not now.
No. Working for someone, especially when it's one of the precious few niches in an ultra competitive market, is not condoning of management's moral compass in the slightest
quote:Didn't say it did either, but it is inconsistent.
. It does not absolve management from being bigoted, nor does it rob the employee of the permission to be incensed over continued bigotry.
quote:Well if you're not going to be rational, that's good to know in advance.
Nope, that one fit fine
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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why are they evaluating the morals now, then?
Because those morals are coming to light now and negatively impacting their job environment.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:40 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Everyone is acting like it was common knowledge.
for those in the NBA circle, it was. again, if you want to claim cp3 is retarded or woefully ignorant of his own league, then go for it. i refuse to take such an absurd, negative view of cp3
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:41 am to shel311
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It does equal turning a blind eye to it then, but not now.
When your choices are limited, you have to go where you'll have the best chance to succeed. That doesn't mean that they have to agree to the druthers of management.
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Didn't say it did either, but it is inconsistent.
Not inconsistent at all, for the reasons I have previously stated.
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Well if you're not going to be rational, that's good to know in advance.
Don't go there. I'm being perfectly rational--you just didn't agree with my analogy.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:43 am to shel311
Because he's claimed the NBA isn't as fun since he heard the tapes. He's outraged and will deflect all obvious points made to him until the mean guy is punished. He will rationalize anything as long as mean mans punished
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Choices weren't limited for those Rivers and Paul, let's be serious. Plenty of teams wanted them. But you're arguing that it was ok for them to put aside all the really bad stuff he did then becuase choices were limited? Really?
When your choices are limited, you have to go where you'll have the best chance to succeed
quote:There is nothing rational about that analogy, c'mon you know that.
Don't go there. I'm being perfectly rational--you just didn't agree with my analogy
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:43 am to fightingtiger2335
quote:Mean man should be punished, that's not my argument, fwiw.
Because he's claimed the NBA isn't as fun since he heard the tapes. He's outraged and will deflect all obvious points made to him until the mean guy is punished. He will rationalize anything as long as mean mans punished
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
You're arguing with an emotional view, which is understandable. Emotion vs logic
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:44 am to undecided
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Silver Exploring "Nuclear" Option on Sterling
Of course he is. It's in the league's best interest to look like they are giving 110% to this issue.
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the NBA has no intentions of the team staying in the family's hands. That'll never be a compromise, because Silver and the owners understand the public tenor: The Sterling family must go.
They say that now, but in the end this is exactly what will happen. Sterling doesn't seem like the type that will go quietly into the night, and Billionaires don't like all of their personal and financial details becoming public record, which is exactly what would happen if the league went Nuclear and Sterling went Al Davis. The fight will not be worth it to them, but letting the public think they're gearing up for war until something else becomes the news of the day is worth all the effort.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:44 am to corndeaux
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Baron Davis claims Sterling was not shy with his beliefs,
yeah other clippers have been making the rounds stating the same thing
the general public gets a pass. NBA fans, players, coaches, analysts, commentators, etc, do not
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:45 am to shel311
Its why he can't see your point though. Unless its all blame on the bully and players didn't have a choice he won't see your point
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:45 am to Epic Cajun
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You're arguing with an emotional view, which is understandable. Emotion vs logic
Emotion has not entered the equation of my arguments.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:46 am to Epic Cajun
Are yall forgeting that CP3 was originally traded to the Lakers but that Stern blocked the trade and sent him to the Clippers instead? Is that not relevant in this discussion???
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