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re: Why has Cam Newton been more successful than Tim Tebow in the NFL?

Posted on 10/26/11 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 8:55 pm to
Is he? I haven't seen any proof of this.

Success in the NFL = winning games, making the playoffs, going to the pro bowl and winning the SB.

Neither has done any of that. Neither is successful yet.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33391 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:00 pm to
Tebow

4 games started
1,076 total yards
9 TDs accounted for/3 INTs
2-2 record

Cam

7 games started
2,369 total yards
15 TDs accounted for/9 INTs
2-5 record

I fail to see how Cam Newton has been "much more successful" than Tebow in the NFL other than he looks prettier doing it. And you're full of shite if you don't think Cam has much more offensive talent around him.

Does Cam "look" like a better QB in all facets of the game? Yes.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Boosh Dag
Member since Oct 2011
1667 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:04 pm to
Because Cam has played and Tebow hasn't.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:10 pm to
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That's right, I forgot that football was only one on one. FWIW, Vince Young is the best QB of all-time. Top percent winning


How exactly would you define success? Perhaps the question should be, "Why does Cam Newton have a worse career QB rating than Tebow?"
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33391 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

How exactly would you define success? Perhaps the question should be, "Why does Cam Newton have a worse career QB rating than Tebow?"


Exactly. You can criticize Tebow all you want about his throwing ability or what not and if he'll ever be a consistent QB doing what he does. But as far as "success" goes so far in the NFL, Tebow has done nothing but perform decently every single time he's played in a real game.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80366 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:14 pm to
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Tebow has done nothing but perform decently every single time he's played in a real game.


A raving endorsement
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60091 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Tebow has done nothing but perform decently every single time he's played in a real game.

A raving endorsement



Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2619 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:28 pm to
Cam can actualy throw
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:32 pm to
He's in a much better situation for one thing.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31255 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

How exactly would you define success? Perhaps the question should be, "Why does Cam Newton have a worse career QB rating than Tebow?"

Well, I do prefer to look an overall scope of individual statistics than a stupid win-loss record. Also, Tebow is simply not a good NFL QB to date. He has completed less than half his passes in career. He is not very accurate. I actually even like Tebow, but I am logical enough to separate my emotions from my analysis.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290878 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:52 pm to
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I fail to see how Cam Newton has been "much more successful" than Tebow in the NFL other than he looks prettier doing it. And you're full of shite if you don't think Cam has much more offensive talent around him.



fail

Tebow cant hold Cam's jock. WTF are you watching
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:52 pm to
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He has completed less than half his passes in career. He is not very accurate


Thats true, no one should argue that. But that is the only thing Cam has done better. Tebow still has as many passing TDs in 1/2 the attempts and 1/3 the ints. He has also been a better runner. So props to Cam for having a good completion rate, but I wouldn't say that makes him more successful at this point.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:00 pm to
Because for some reason God loves Cam and hates Timmy.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31255 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:12 pm to
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Tebow still has as many passing TDs in 1/2 the attempts and 1/3 the ints.


Cam takes way more risks in the passing game and fricking connects a lot of the time. It is really impressive. He is going to have a couple multi-ints games, but he is putting up big numbers with a good amount of completions. He looks very composed, terrific out there.

quote:

He has also been a better runner.

Woohoo!!! Tebow is also a better runner than Tom, Drew, and Aaron.

quote:

So props to Cam for having a good completion rate, but I wouldn't say that makes him more successful at this point.

But it does. The object of the QB is to complete passes that will help his team move the ball in a positive direction.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173720 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:13 pm to
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Why has Cam Newton been more successful than Tim Tebow in the NFL?

Because he is a better athlete and a better passer?

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23159 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:49 pm to
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They're both big and athletic and had a lot of success in college. Is Tebow not smart enough? Does he lack work ethic? What is it?


Cam has a MUCH MUCH better throwing motion and an extremely strong arm. Cam can make all the NFL throws. TT cannot.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10323 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:10 pm to
Considerably more physical talent.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38438 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Why has Cam Newton been more successful than Tim Tebow in the NFL?


Cam had the benefit of being a pro college athlete.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:15 pm to
White people are too stupid to be quarterbacks.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:58 am to
quote:

The object of the QB is to complete passes that will help his team move the ball in a positive direction


The object is to score and win. Tebow does it better.
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