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re: Why does the Big 10 suck so bad at baseball?

Posted on 6/12/24 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 2:58 pm to
I was talking about hockey. Lots of talent would love to go to school in a warm winter climate yet continue to play the game. I put up ASU as an example. Check their recruiting and what kind of players they're able to bring in.

Said nothing about wrestling.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Essentially saying an SEC team could start whooping a historic wrestling power like Iowa if they just started putting some attention on the sport.


They probably could…
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:13 pm to
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are you saying baseball is a regional sport like every kid in america doesn’t play little league and almost every state in the Big 10 doesn’t have a Major League team?

Sure Big 10 area of the country has baseball … but are they elite? Look at Top draft selections. Sure do see lot of players from South, Texas, and California
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:17 pm to
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Look at Top draft selections. Sure do see lot of players from South, Texas, and California


Jeter came from Kalamazoo Central
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:18 pm to
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I didn't even know the BIG 10 had baseball.


lol, ok clark
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:23 pm to
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Jeter came from Kalamazoo Central

You mean out of thousands of former MLB players you can find exceptions?!? No way
Also, Jeter didn’t play college
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Also, Jeter didn’t play college


He was a Michigan commit… they have to battle the culture up north that not just that the SEC is better, but that the minor leagues are too… a lot of Southern dudes turn down big minor league money to go to college
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Their hockey and wrestling is equivalent to our baseball. They consistently have a team in the frozen four and between Iowa Penn state, Minnesota etc have really good wrestling programs. It’s where they invest the other money. In the sec it’s on baseball.


The Big Ten didn’t sponsor hockey until like 2012
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:11 pm to
The point is that it takes major investment of resources (money, time, people) to become serious contenders at any of these sports. Why the frick would a great wrestler from Florida go wrestle for UF’s club team when Iowa or Penn State can train them to the best they can be. Same can be said for any other sport.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Why does the SEC suck at hockey?
Because Les Miles ran a train on The Ohio State.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:33 pm to
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Why the frick would a great wrestler from Florida go wrestle for UF’s club team when Iowa or Penn State can train them to the best they can be. Same can be said for any other sport.


If the SEC is going to get into a sport, it’s not gonna be as damn club teams… we’ve already seen how they’ve taken over softball from the West Coast… their money could do the same with almost any sport there is
Posted by ChiGator
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:58 pm to
The University of Florida literally has a club hockey team….

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:53 pm to
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The University of Florida literally has a club hockey team….


Club sports don’t count
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:20 am to
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Why does the Big 10 suck so bad at baseball?


Probably been mentioned already but Wisconsin doesn't even have a team. Only B1G school that can claim that. fricking embarrassing.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:42 am to
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a lot of Southern dudes turn down big minor league money to go to college


Jeter was the #6 overall pick, he would have gone #1 but the Astros owner did not want to meet his price. A Southern HS kid drafted in the first round let alone top 10 is going pro barring some extraordinary circumstances
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:38 am to
I disagree with the weather premise. It is the same reason why the college FB was always second to NFL in the Northeast and Midwest, because that is where the pro teams are located. Obviously, they have spread, but sports and fandom, above most things in modern society, are based on tradition. Even cities that have lost teams continue to support leagues.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:10 am to
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I disagree with the weather premise. It is the same reason why the college FB was always second to NFL in the Northeast and Midwest, because that is where the pro teams are located


I think this is a classic case of confusing correlation with causation. “Popularity” is not the issue. The SEC has become the dominant conference really in the last 15 years because schools have been putting more resources into baseball (and softball). In the past both sports were dominated by teams in the west, California and Arizona. Clearly the weather is a huge factor in being able to build and sustain those programs. College baseball season starts in February. Coincidentally all those MLB teams in the NE and MW are training in Florida and Arizona I’ll let you guess why.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:12 am
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