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re: Why Does Anthony Get More Hate When He Actually Reached the WCF Unlike Paul?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:15 pm to QJenk
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:15 pm to QJenk
Funny that this has become an excuse for cp apologists years down the road when guys like myself were dismissed for saying this way back when Paul was a hornet.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:19 pm to JabarkusRussell
It's not fair to blame this series loss solely on Paul, or even mostly on him, necessarily. The Clippers as a whole didn't play great defense. Jordan was a virtual non-factor the entire series and was in constant foul trouble due to stupid errors. Not Paul's fault. Crawford chucked and chucked until the Clips finally gave up big leads. I think the loss in game 5 was actually on him, not Paul. Griffin wasn't entirely good either this series.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:20 pm to ShamelessPel
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The best of them (PCT) still can't sit back and let his Rocket bias go when comparing the teams, and he's the best we got.
I can't let my Rocket bias go? I disagree. I just don't agree with everything y'all say over there. The minute someone tries to reign y'all in we're trolling. If rooting for my team is unbiased, then I'm guilty. Other than that I am as objective as they come and can't think of many Pelicans fans on here who can say the same thing.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:25 pm to QJenk
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When was the last time a team won a finals with their PG as their best player?
Spurs won in 2007 when Parker won finals MVP, but Tim Duncan was still the best player on that team then
Pistons won in 03 with Chauncey winning finals MVP, but I'm not convinced he was necessarily the best player on the team. I think it was Ben Wallace imo
Before that you have to go back to bad boy Pistons era with Isaih to find the last time a truly elite PG won the finals.
Which begs the question, is the pg position the most overrated position in basketball. Many people always say that the pg position is most important. Then why is it that the last time a truly elite superstar pg won it all was 24 years ago.
Exactly my point, you need a dominant big man or wing scorer to win in the nba, not a point guard. I will say that the 2 best players on that detroit championship team were billups and rip hamilton however. Even when the lakers were winning in the 80s, magic still had kareem. Isaiah is really the only point guard in the last 30 years to win a championship that was clearly the best player on his team.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:29 pm to QJenk
quote:It's out-dated thinking that the PG is the most important position in basketball.
Which begs the question, is the pg position the most overrated position in basketball. Many people always say that the pg position is most important. Then why is it that the last time a truly elite superstar pg won it all was 24 years ago.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:07 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:this is why tony parkers assist numbers arent very high. the spurs have incredible ball movement and always make the extra pass. that often leads to someone else getting the assist.
A team that is good at passing the ball is what is needed.
A very very small percentage of scoring is done where a PG makes a great pass that leads directly to points.
Passing is important in basketball, but your team's offense has to have 5 willing passers on the floor who swing the ball to the open man.
That's why a PG is not going to lead a team anywhere unless he can score a lot of points efficiently
rondo on the other hand dribbles the air out of the ball and shot clock and at the last minute feeds a guy the ball where he has to jack it up. thats why his assist numbers are inflated.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:22 pm to Boomtown
quote:so hes an average rebounder for a 4 and sucks on defense. is that a fair compromise?quote:Averaged 8 rebounds this year when he excelled as a small-ball 4. Averaged 7 the year before
carmelo anthony is a flawed player-- he doesnt defend or rebound particularly well
quote:he was on his best behavior for 3 weeks when he was clearly not the star of the show and they won every game. what a true sportsmenquote:He seemed to handle being Team USA's 6th man pretty well
they'd be the star, not melo. and melo doesnt want that.
quote:stars dont want to play with melo. felton is the type of player you end up with. i didnt say felton was a legit building block piece with meloquote:Ask Trail Blazer fans what they think of Cupcake Felton
s i said, if your argument is those guys arent great scorers, too, i would argue that would make them better players then carmelo
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:23 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:linn is a guy who can score. i thought thats what melo needed? help scoring bc he cant do EVERYTHING!! so you had a guy, but his contract was the problem? the knicks being financially responsible, hilarious!quote:James Dolan's first intelligent decision was not re-signing Lin for 4 years.
he said he couldnt play with jeremy linn b/c linn was ball dominant
quote:dragic had his chance in houston and didnt play very well. all 30 teams could have picked him up if they wanted. he landed in phoenix and played great. good for him. morey makes millions of moves, they dont all work. i love linn as the 6th man coming off the bench. i cringe at the idea of him being my starting PG, but i love his scoring ability off the bench
You think Houston isn't kicking themselves for letting Dragic go in favor of Lin?
quote:for all the crap i giove melo, i will say this-- he takes his media beating like a man. youre right, he doesnt lash out publicly, and he does sit and answer tough questions without acting like a child. good for him. but alot of that is also what he asked for when denver was too small a pond for him and his wife. but theres turmoil behind the scenes, him considering bailing and going to chicago. what i should have said is "the melo defenders blaming everyone in the world but best player on the team"quote:When did he do that this year, in what was obviously the lowest point of his career?
then blaming others when it doesnt work out
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:40 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
quote:That's not really true. Dragic played very well in Houston, and Morey would have loved to keep him. But Morey had his eyes on trying to get a star player. And Morey said the issue with Dragic was the player option.
dragic had his chance in houston and didnt play very well. all 30 teams could have picked him up if they wanted. he landed in phoenix and played great. good for him. morey makes millions of moves, they dont all work. i love linn as the 6th man coming off the bench. i cringe at the idea of him being my starting PG, but i love his scoring ability off the bench
He said having player options on the roster limits their ability to get a star player. He said players with player options are nearly untradable, so that would be difficult when trying to work trades to get a star.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:50 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:There was a post on clutchfans by one of the well connected posters that said that Morey want to keep Dragic but Alexander saw $$ and told him to sign Lin.
That's not really true. Dragic played very well in Houston, and Morey would have loved to keep him. But Morey had his eyes on trying to get a star player. And Morey said the issue with Dragic was the player option.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 1:55 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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so hes an average rebounder for a 4 and sucks on defense. is that a fair compromise
No, considering he predominantly plays the 3, I was just stating that he excelled offensively as a small-ball 4, which is true. 8 rebounds pg is the best mark of all small forwards this year, Durant included.
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he was on his best behavior for 3 weeks when he was clearly not the star of the show and they won every game. what a true sportsmen
He's been on other Olympic teams, too. It's a shame Amare's career went the way it did. Who knows.
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the knicks being financially responsible, hilarious!
Letting Lin go was a financially responsible decision (what two contracts would Houston need to move to make a run at Melo? Hint: one is Lin's), resigning JR Smith was not.
I'm not a Melo fanboy by any means, but the guy played his arse off on a terrible team this year who had a lame duck coach. He didn't go out to some phantom injury like a lot of other guys would have and he didn't bitch.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:08 pm to Dr RC
The Nuggets actually won more games (57) after he left
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:And I think he's full of shite.
There was a post on clutchfans by one of the well connected posters that said that Morey want to keep Dragic but Alexander saw $$ and told him to sign Lin.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:14 pm to Boomtown
quote:so youre admitting hes playing a small ball 4, but then want to classify him as a 3. you cant have it both ways....quote:No, considering he predominantly plays the 3, I was just stating that he excelled offensively as a small-ball 4, which is true. 8 rebounds pg is the best mark of all small forwards this year, Durant included.
so hes an average rebounder for a 4 and sucks on defense. is that a fair compromise
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:17 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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so youre admitting hes playing a small ball 4, but then want to classify him as a 3. you cant have it both ways....
So how would classify LeBron then?
He played two different positions this year, and spent more time at the 3. However, when he played the 4 the Knicks played some of their best basketball. I don't understand why this is so hard.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:19 pm to Boomtown
quote:he pads his own stats well that way. hes too quick for most 4s. too bad he cant guard any legit 4 in the league. so he essential gives up as much as gets. given their season, its hard to make an argument it was effect on the scoreboard
I was just stating that he excelled offensively as a small-ball 4
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:42 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
I've never seen Chris Paul double-teamed. Never.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 3:53 pm to PapiGogo
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I've never seen Chris Paul double-teamed. Never.
What? Have you been watching basketball for about 2 weeks now?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:24 pm to htran90
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like jose calderon
Racist.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:52 pm to gnarkill1529
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just because you have a scoring point guard doesnt mean you always win thats pretty narrow minded
Yet you think having a PG that just passes and can't score is a key to success?
If you knew anything about basketball(you don't sadly) you'd know balance between being able to score/pass/defend is key.
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and when did i ever say i was a wolves fan?...i was just making an argument for rubio...is your reading comprehension lacking
With the way you're white knightning for him it's easy to make that mistake.
You're either an awful troll or stupid(likely both)
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