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re: Why do some golfers “lose It” when they are still in their prime?

Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12728 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:50 pm to
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You don’t luck into winning 13 years in a row and spend 130 weeks at world number 1 without effort. DJ’s a lot smarter than he’d have everyone believe. There’s no doubt he went to LIV for the money and doesn’t work like he used to but he’s also 40 and didn’t make that a secret


Nobody gives a frick about you winning the Valspar Championship.

They care about what you did in majors.

I was as big of a Dustin Johnson fan as anyone, but he was the king of not finishing the majors.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12728 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Eh, seemed that way in majors but not really in general. He's still 3rd in active players PGA Tour wins with 24 only behind Tiger and Rory, 9 more than the next guy. You don't win 24 times on tour without some killer instinct.


People care about majors. He was talented enough to win as many majors as Phil.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
34531 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Ricky Fowler
Not being a hater but he’s always been kind of second tier, no?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30959 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:32 pm to
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Nobody gives a frick about you winning the Valspar Championship.


He didn’t win the valspar, he won a lot of WGC’s and playoff events, definitely not stacking up wins at the 3M or Rocket Mortgage. And he got screwed out of 2 majors, should have 4.

Posted by Flick007
Member since Dec 2023
179 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:43 am to
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Jordan Spieth, Ricky Fowler, possibly now Max Homa


Spieth, and Fowler got married. Homa fell off after that. Homa’s game was good early in marriage, but fell off about a year after he had a child.

Hovland hasn’t fallen off. He finished third at the PGA Championship and was runner-up at the first FedExCup Playoffs event. He made it to the TOUR Championship and had a world ranking at No. 8.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 11:19 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:53 am to
Pretty sure Hovland shot an 84 this past weekend.

Insane because 2 years ago when he won the Fed Ex and tore up the Ryder Cup, I’m not even sure I’ve seen Scottie on that big of a heater. He was unconscious for a few weeks in 2023. Think he shot a 61 at the BMW and then destroyed everyone at the Fed Ex the next weekend.

Loved watching him when he’s on. Sucks seeing guys fall apart like that,
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38674 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:42 am to
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People care about majors. He was talented enough to win as many majors as Phil.


Yes, people care about the majors. But the players also care about the other events they play in and he won a lot of them for a long time. A choke artist/someone without a closer mentality never comes close to winning as many times as he did. Doesn't matter if you only care about majors.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:25 am to
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have wondered if sometimes they do go overboard and screw themselves up


All the time
Posted by Flick007
Member since Dec 2023
179 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:21 am to
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Pretty sure Hovland shot an 84 this past weekend.


Well, he’s coming off an injury in January, so I don’t know that it is fair to consider anything since January as him losing it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38674 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:38 am to
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Well, he’s coming off an injury in January, so I don’t know that it is fair to consider anything since January as him losing it


I hope he bounces back but this isn't just an injury thing for him. He's kind of lost it after the 2023 off season when he changed his swing. Dude has two top 10 finishes since then in 17 Tour events. That bad after winning numerous events and the FedEx Cup, not a great sign.

Hell him and Homa have missed every cut this year in events that actually had a cut. The only tournaments they've placed in were no cut events.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37066 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 4:47 pm to
Bump to say Hovland just won the Valspar bating Justin Thomas by one stroke.

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s. That bad after winning numerous events and the FedEx Cup, not a great sign
.

Guess the signs were wrong.

This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 4:49 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30443 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 5:52 pm to
Hovland was going through a swing change and changed his putter two weeks ago.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16674 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 5:57 pm to
Tom Watson won 8 majors by the age of 34 then got the yips and never won another. Golf is such a mental grind - I can't imagine. If it was easy we'd all do it.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
55031 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:28 pm to
He should have been one of the greats
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
38363 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:43 pm to
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He should have been one of the greats

Tom Watson?? He is one of the best 10-15 golfers of all time
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37066 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Hovland was going through a swing change and changed his putter two weeks ago.


Coming off an injury too, wasn’t he?
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3563 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:34 pm to
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He should have been one of the greats


Huh?!

Lets get a list of major championship winners.
Won't have to go far before you bump into Tom Watson.
Nicklaus
Woods
Hagen
Hogan
Player.
That's it.

Should have been???
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
55031 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:37 pm to
I mean one of the all time greats mentioned with Nicklaus and palmer.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21849 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 11:22 pm to
I think an added element is there was blood pressure on guys like Spieth, Fowler, JT, etc. to be the “next wave” and pick up the slack after Tiger fell off.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104802 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:45 am to
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mean one of the all time greats mentioned with Nicklaus and palmer.
He is

Watson has more majors than Palmer
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