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Why Cincinnati bearcats football is on the decline?

Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:26 pm
Seems like for a decent portion of the 21st century they have been a pretty decent mid-level team. Had some really good passing attacks in the past and has been ranked relatively high a few times.

Just saw that UM is nearly a 40 point favorite this weekend, and they almost lost to austin peay opening week.

I guess it was all due to brian kelly that they were successful? There was a period where cincy went 34-6 over 40 game period.
Posted by bamaclownbaby
Biloxi
Member since Jun 2013
382 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:29 pm to
They got left out of the power 5 and recruits have noticed.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:31 pm to
They were pretty good during the Dantonio/Kelly/Jones tenures and even had a few good years for Tuberville's first few. Getting locked out of a power conference was devastating for them.

Contrast that with Louisville - their peer almost every step of the way for the last sixty years until Louisville's jump into the ACC. Louisville managed to win a couple of big bowl games, had higher peaks, and showed a much stronger commitment to football - all things that managed to get them into the ACC.

They'll be fine if they ever get into a P5 conference (Big XII most likely currently). They're in a good recruiting area and still have a decently solid fanbase if the product is there. I think having Ohio State in state really holds them back.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:31 pm to
Left out of P5, poor hiring after Kelly & Tuberville left and maybe the recruiting base is looking elsewhere ?
Posted by karmew32
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2017
1511 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:36 pm to
Tuberville really did a sorry job recruiting there. He was burnt out on coaching.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155692 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:56 pm to
Tuberville is a f9t
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:58 pm to
They are like Tulsa baskeball in the 80s-00s.

They got lucky with a bunch of rising stud coaches in a row, but their luck ran out.

Posted by Roger Wilco
Xenon
Member since Aug 2017
268 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:58 pm to
Marvin Lewis runs that city now
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:27 pm to
I think it's a stepping-stone gig for coaches/coordinators and it's hard to replenish/sustain quality hires for multiple decades.

After a decent stretch of (relative) success, feeder programs lose their up & comers and go into a period where they just suck, after hiring either stagnant re-tread names or just filler no-names .

Look at Tulane who fielded competitive teams in the 80's with Mack Brown, and into the 90's with Tommy Bowden & Rich Rod ... then Div 2 level suckiness in the new millennium.

Oh, and add Jimbo Fisher to the list of Cincy names that did stints there. Saban swiped him from Cincy and brought him to LSU.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76526 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 7:54 pm to
I think the combination of Luke Fickell's ability to recruit Ohio, and the fact that Ohio State under Urban is recruiting nationally will make for very solid success at UC in the near future.

Kentucky actually has been responsible the success of Ohio State's ability to get players from all over. They clean up the scraps in Ohio.

It'll be interesting to see if UC can get those players.
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:00 pm to
I remember seeing statistics for FBS program revenue, and Tulane actually out-earned Cincinnati in the prior year.

It sounded a little unbelievable, but it would explain how Cincinnati appears rather mortal right now.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 8:01 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12841 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:01 pm to
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I think the combination of Luke Fickell's ability to recruit Ohio, and the fact that Ohio State under Urban is recruiting nationally will make for very solid success at UC in the near future.


He's gonna win there. Probably take a year or two though
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76340 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:04 pm to
Big XII should've snagged Cincy and Houston. Maybe even try for BYU.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47648 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

I remember seeing statistics for FBS program revenue, and Tulane actually out-earned Cincinnati in the prior year.

It sounded a little unbelievable, but it would explain how Cincinnati appears rather mortal right now.
probably old bc the few Cincy games that come on tv seem to have a nice crowd
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6617 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:24 pm to
Reminder that if Nebraska holds on and beats Texas Alabama plays Cincinnati for the BCS title in 2009.
Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
24214 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:26 pm to
They are obviously missing the leadership of Butch Jones
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36454 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

probably old bc the few Cincy games that come on tv seem to have a nice crowd

nah

the answer is tuberville btw. simple as that.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47648 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Alabama plays Cincinnati for the BCS title in 2009.




or Florida or TCU or Boise State
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8767 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:01 pm to
All it takes is one bad hire in college football to turn success around.

Tuberville was a bad hire whose laziness at Cincinnati won't fully expose itself instantly.
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