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re: Why are so many people IMPRESSED with the HEAT?

Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by front2back
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:02 pm to
He did it in the east lol



Kwame brown and smush Parker enough said
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:04 pm to
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How did you stump me? A 2nd round playoff team, you thought they could beat the Heat. NOW you're saying this all should have been expected.


The team that beat the Lakers that year made Lebron its bitch...or did you block that out too?
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13870 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:05 pm to
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Jordan forced out guys he didn't like - Collins, Cartwright and Perdue and pushed for guys he wanted Jackson, Rodman and Pippen.

It wasn't collusion because Jordan had all the power and was calling the shots.

Is that somehow better?


I've always said this but people NEVER respond to me.

Jordan said he was going to leave if they didn't put talent around him. They got Pippen.

Chicago>Cleveland in every way
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:05 pm to
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Kwame brown and smush Parker enough said
That's "enough said" but playing for SEVEN years and your 2nd best player is Mo Williams, that's not "enough said"

Surely, you're not being serious there.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:06 pm to
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The team that beat the Lakers that year made Lebron its bitch
Which only further boxes you in on your premis of this post.

I know, you're going to try and say the Lakers and Mavs teams were just twice as good as any team in the NBA now, but that would be you just grasping for anything you can to crawl out of the box you can't get out of.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15425 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:08 pm to
F2B is trolling the MSB now?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32349 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:09 pm to
I think he's mad that with kobe out, the lakers may actually play better. Imagine who they could have brought in if they had kobe's money to spend! I guarantee they would be higher than an 8th seed
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13870 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:10 pm to
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F2B is trolling the MSB now?


And he is terrible at it.

UKK is just dumb
Posted by front2back
Member since Jan 2012
617 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:11 pm to
Both teams made moves


Cleveland just a sucks at making them



Still doesn't change the fact lebron had to team up with a top 2 Sg and a top 3 pf to win a title
Posted by Na Mean
This is me yo.
Member since Mar 2013
2954 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:11 pm to
I'm signing out of this thread.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:13 pm to
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Still doesn't change the fact lebron had to team up with a top 2 Sg and a top 3 pf to win a title


In this world where all fans talk about is selfish athletes who care about money and don't care if their teams win or not, you don't find it the least bit refreshing to find just about an entire team, not just the big 3, getting paid less than their market value(at the time they signed) to sacrifice personal accomplishments for the good of the team accomplishment, winning a title?

Interesting...
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:13 pm to
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These guys colluded and structured their contracts years in advance to win


I don't understand why people think this was such a crime.

Who doesn't want to get the best players possible in order to have the best chance to win a title?

By every indication the Lakers are structuring their contracts/cap space to make a run at Lebron after next year. I don't see the difference btw a GM doing it and a player doing it.
Posted by front2back
Member since Jan 2012
617 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:13 pm to
Not really injuries have decimated the team
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:14 pm to
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I know, you're going to try and say the Lakers and Mavs teams were just twice as good as any team in the NBA now, but that would be you just grasping for anything you can to crawl out of the box you can't get out of.


You really need lessons in this

You're using this LOGIC

P1: A > B
P2: A > C
C: C > B

And that would be INVALID

Real world application:

Year 2001:
P1: Lakers sweep San Antonio
P2: Lakers beat Philadelphia
Ergo: it is necessarily true Philly would beat SA bc they weren't swept by the Lakers

you lose













again
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 2:16 pm
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13870 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:15 pm to
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Cleveland just a sucks at making them




Exactly.

You think if Kobe was playing in Cleveland and he had the same teams Lebron was on he would have stayed?

1/10
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:16 pm to
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P1: A > B
P2: A > C
C: C > B
Which team is A, B, and C?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:17 pm to
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You think if Kobe was playing in Cleveland and he had the same teams Lebron was on he would have stayed?


Stay != running to your rival peers like a bitch
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:18 pm to
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Which team is A, B, and C?


Any team you want. That's why I used placeholders. It's a LOGICAL argument.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Stay !=
Saying this is exactly the same as saying then that winning wasn't Kobe's ultimate goal.

There's no difference in the 2 statements.
Posted by Na Mean
This is me yo.
Member since Mar 2013
2954 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Stay != running to your rival peers like a bitch


I forgot that if your rival peers come to you, it's okay. Different method, but in the end, the results are the same.
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