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re: Why are so many people IMPRESSED with the HEAT?

Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:20 pm to
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Any team you want
In this specific 3 team example, which team is which?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:23 pm to
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Saying this is exactly the same as saying then that winning wasn't Kobe's ultimate goal. There's no difference in the 2 statements.


No. Again you are failing at this.

There is at LEAST a third option: going to a decent team that doesn't have 2 other top 5 players you are buddy buddy with at the time.

That's why I said BEFORE the decision baby Bron should go to CHICAGO. Sure they were good, but it would have been more legit bc Rose hadn't exploded yet. It would have been HIS team from day 1. Not Wade's.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6180 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to
Why would someone go where they are less likely to win?

ETA: LeBron's legacy has only grown since joining the Heat
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to
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In this specific 3 team example, which team is which?


Are you this dull? What happened in 2011 and in what sequence?

The point is the same regardless.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to
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There is at LEAST a third option: going to a decent team that doesn't have 2 other top 5 players you are buddy buddy with at the time.
This is the same as option 2, if you do that then winning isn't your ultimate goal, how can you say otherwise? You're saying option 3, go to a worse tea. Hey, that's an option!!! Sure it is, but it's not an option if winning is your ultimate goal, no chance.

And wait, Bosh is/was a top 5 player now?

This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm to
To impress some random dude in Baton Rouge who likes to take mirror pics
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm to
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Why would someone go where they are less likely to win?


Because they aren't a pussy?

Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
Posted by Na Mean
This is me yo.
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:26 pm to
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Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?


For the same reason Kobe didn't. The talent came to them, which makes all of their situations different than Lebron's.

Jordan = Bulls
Bird = Celts
Magic & Kobe = Lakers

Those teams are never struggling for superstars to go play there.
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6180 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to
They didn't have to, they had fellow future hall of famers on their team... LeBron had Boobie Gibson
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to
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Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
Because they won about 15 titles on their own? Contracts were different then?

quote:

Because they aren't a pussy?
So, you are in fact saying, the goal in this sport is to make it tougher on yourself to win titles, and you should NOT try to put yourself in position to win as much as possible?

That is what you're telling me while whining about LOGIC?

Priceless.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to
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not just the big 3, getting paid less than their market value(at the time they signed) to sacrifice personal accomplishments for the good of the team accomplishment, winning a title?


FL tax law bra

Taxes in, OH,NY and Chi-town would take damn near half his check. Just look at flacco in bmore
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to
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This is the same as option 2, if you do that then winning isn't your ultimate goal


Winning BY ITSELF is not the ultimate goal for COMPETITORS. They want to win more than anything in the CONTEXT of a challenge/competition.

That's why Lebron isn't really a competitor.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to
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FL tax law bra
None of the Big 3 are making max money, so they have most definitely taken a paycut, as they could all be on max contracts in Miami.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37587 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to
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Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?



because Jordan had Pippen

because Bird had McHale and Parrish

because Magic had Kareem and James Worthy
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to
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Because they won about 15 titles on their own? Contracts were different then?


Why are you asking? They could have had 15 titles EACH if they took a "pay cut" because winning BY ITSELF is everything.

I guess by your logic, Lebron is a bigger winner than any all-time great before him because he ran to Miami.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to
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Winning BY ITSELF is not the ultimate goal for COMPETITORS. They want to win more than anything in the CONTEXT of a challenge/competition.

That's why Lebron isn't really a competitor.

That one will wrap up today's logic discussion.

My work here is done, though it's not hard when you do the work for me.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:30 pm to
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LeBron had Boobie Gibson


he also told the front office who he wanted and they got them.

at least in Miami he doesn't have that problem
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6180 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:30 pm to
Are you retarded?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:31 pm to
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They could have had 15 titles EACH if they took a "pay cut" because winning BY ITSELF is everything
No they couldn't. You would only think that if you don't understand how the financials worked back then.
Posted by Na Mean
This is me yo.
Member since Mar 2013
2954 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:31 pm to
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Are you retarded?



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