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re: Why are so many people IMPRESSED with the HEAT?
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:20 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:20 pm to theunknownknight
quote:In this specific 3 team example, which team is which?
Any team you want
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:23 pm to shel311
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Saying this is exactly the same as saying then that winning wasn't Kobe's ultimate goal. There's no difference in the 2 statements.
No. Again you are failing at this.
There is at LEAST a third option: going to a decent team that doesn't have 2 other top 5 players you are buddy buddy with at the time.
That's why I said BEFORE the decision baby Bron should go to CHICAGO. Sure they were good, but it would have been more legit bc Rose hadn't exploded yet. It would have been HIS team from day 1. Not Wade's.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to theunknownknight
Why would someone go where they are less likely to win?
ETA: LeBron's legacy has only grown since joining the Heat
ETA: LeBron's legacy has only grown since joining the Heat
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to shel311
quote:
In this specific 3 team example, which team is which?
Are you this dull? What happened in 2011 and in what sequence?
The point is the same regardless.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:24 pm to theunknownknight
quote:This is the same as option 2, if you do that then winning isn't your ultimate goal, how can you say otherwise? You're saying option 3, go to a worse tea. Hey, that's an option!!! Sure it is, but it's not an option if winning is your ultimate goal, no chance.
There is at LEAST a third option: going to a decent team that doesn't have 2 other top 5 players you are buddy buddy with at the time.
And wait, Bosh is/was a top 5 player now?
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm to BarbeTiger
To impress some random dude in Baton Rouge who likes to take mirror pics
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm to BarbeTiger
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Why would someone go where they are less likely to win?
Because they aren't a pussy?
Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:26 pm to theunknownknight
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Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
For the same reason Kobe didn't. The talent came to them, which makes all of their situations different than Lebron's.
Jordan = Bulls
Bird = Celts
Magic & Kobe = Lakers
Those teams are never struggling for superstars to go play there.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to theunknownknight
They didn't have to, they had fellow future hall of famers on their team... LeBron had Boobie Gibson
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Because they won about 15 titles on their own? Contracts were different then?
Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
quote:So, you are in fact saying, the goal in this sport is to make it tougher on yourself to win titles, and you should NOT try to put yourself in position to win as much as possible?
Because they aren't a pussy?
That is what you're telling me while whining about LOGIC?
Priceless.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to shel311
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not just the big 3, getting paid less than their market value(at the time they signed) to sacrifice personal accomplishments for the good of the team accomplishment, winning a title?
FL tax law bra
Taxes in, OH,NY and Chi-town would take damn near half his check. Just look at flacco in bmore
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:27 pm to shel311
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This is the same as option 2, if you do that then winning isn't your ultimate goal
Winning BY ITSELF is not the ultimate goal for COMPETITORS. They want to win more than anything in the CONTEXT of a challenge/competition.
That's why Lebron isn't really a competitor.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:None of the Big 3 are making max money, so they have most definitely taken a paycut, as they could all be on max contracts in Miami.
FL tax law bra
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
Why didn't Jordan, Bird, and Magic team up?
because Jordan had Pippen
because Bird had McHale and Parrish
because Magic had Kareem and James Worthy
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to shel311
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Because they won about 15 titles on their own? Contracts were different then?
Why are you asking? They could have had 15 titles EACH if they took a "pay cut" because winning BY ITSELF is everything.
I guess by your logic, Lebron is a bigger winner than any all-time great before him because he ran to Miami.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:29 pm to theunknownknight
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Winning BY ITSELF is not the ultimate goal for COMPETITORS. They want to win more than anything in the CONTEXT of a challenge/competition.
That's why Lebron isn't really a competitor.
That one will wrap up today's logic discussion.
My work here is done, though it's not hard when you do the work for me.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:30 pm to BarbeTiger
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LeBron had Boobie Gibson
he also told the front office who he wanted and they got them.
at least in Miami he doesn't have that problem
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:31 pm to theunknownknight
quote:No they couldn't. You would only think that if you don't understand how the financials worked back then.
They could have had 15 titles EACH if they took a "pay cut" because winning BY ITSELF is everything
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