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re: Why all the hate for Dabo Swinney?
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:56 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:56 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
Wasn't Auburn the defending National Champs? A team from the Big Bad SEC that teams like Clemson are not supposed to be able to beat? I guess the fans and coaches were supposed to know that Auburn would go 8-5
lol dude get real
everyone knew that Auburn team was average at best at almost every position on the field, and they knew it before the season kicked off. The only reason we even started the season ranked was because of the previous year, and we returned virtually nobody from that team.
In our first game that year we needed a miracle to beat Utah State. In our second game that year we needed a goal line stand to hold off a pretty mediocre MSU squad. At no point did anyone have any delusions that Auburn was anything other than average, and anyone who looked at our schedule could easily have pointed out five losses.
Hell, that team might have been the worst 8-5 team I have ever seen. That defense was as stiff as a wet piece of paper and our QB situation was dreadful after Trotter got a little banged up. Auburn was absolutely blown the frick out by every good team they played that year other than South Carolina, which was a game won solely because Garcia handed us the game on a silver platter, and we still needed every single break known to man to fall our way to come out with that one.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 2:00 am
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 2:24 am to Ross
quote:
lol dude get real
everyone knew that Auburn team was average at best at almost every position on the field, and they knew it before the season kicked off. The only reason we even started the season ranked was because of the previous year, and we returned virtually nobody from that team.
In our first game that year we needed a miracle to beat Utah State. In our second game that year we needed a goal line stand to hold off a pretty mediocre MSU squad. At no point did anyone have any delusions that Auburn was anything other than average, and anyone who looked at our schedule could easily have pointed out five losses.
Hell, that team might have been the worst 8-5 team I have ever seen. That defense was as stiff as a wet piece of paper and our QB situation was dreadful after Trotter got a little banged up. Auburn was absolutely blown the frick out by every good team they played that year other than South Carolina, which was a game won solely because Garcia handed us the game on a silver platter, and we still needed every single break known to man to fall our way to come out with that one.
Again, can you read? Clemson fans run onto the field after every single win.
When you beat the defending champ after everyone has been running their mouth about how no one can beat the big bad SEC do more people run out than when you beat The Citadel? Sure, but it happens every game.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 2:26 am to Korin
quote:
He consistently acts like a jackass. Remember his national championship claim after winning the Chick-fil-A Bowl?
Why do people get hungup so much on that statement? He said LSU was a National Championship caliber team. They were one AJ McCarron-TJ Yeldon screen pass away from playing UGA for a trip to the National Championship Game.
Why is that such an insane statement?
Posted on 1/19/14 at 3:26 am to Ross
quote:
lol dude get real
everyone knew that Auburn team was average at best at almost every position on the field, and they knew it before the season kicked off. The only reason we even started the season ranked was because of the previous year, and we returned virtually nobody from that team.
In our first game that year we needed a miracle to beat Utah State. In our second game that year we needed a goal line stand to hold off a pretty mediocre MSU squad. At no point did anyone have any delusions that Auburn was anything other than average, and anyone who looked at our schedule could easily have pointed out five losses.
Hell, that team might have been the worst 8-5 team I have ever seen. That defense was as stiff as a wet piece of paper and our QB situation was dreadful after Trotter got a little banged up. Auburn was absolutely blown the frick out by every good team they played that year other than South Carolina, which was a game won solely because Garcia handed us the game on a silver platter, and we still needed every single break known to man to fall our way to come out with that one.
Y'all still beat us though.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 3:27 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:
Why do people get hungup so much on that statement? He said LSU was a National Championship caliber team. They were one AJ McCarron-TJ Yeldon screen pass away from playing UGA for a trip to the National Championship Game.
Why is that such an insane statement?
Because winning the Chick-fil-A Bowl isn't winning a national title?
Posted on 1/19/14 at 4:51 am to Korin
quote:
Because winning the Chick-fil-A Bowl isn't winning a national title?
He was referring to LSU. Is English not some of yal's native language?
He was saying LSU is a National Championship caliber team. You really think Dabo was making a case for a two-loss Clemson team to be the National Champ
? You people suck at flaming.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 9:08 am to TTsTowel
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-He's removed the Clemsoning label from Clemson. Granted we haven't played our best games possible in some South Carolina games, and FSU this year, and against WVU, but that's not when the Clemsoning term came about. It came about when we lost to the Marylands and Wake Forests of the world. Clemson has won something like 20 straight games against unranked opponents by double digits, second in the nation only to Dabo. Clemson is consistent under Dabo
Jesus Christ
Posted on 1/19/14 at 9:12 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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Put Cam Newton on Clemson's 2013 roster, and they more than likely take home the crystal trophy.
does he make up 37 points against one of the best teams of the decade?
Posted on 1/19/14 at 10:37 am to RollTide1987
B/c his name is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 10:48 am to LSUbase13
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He is 1-5 against the pride of the state: The University of South Carolina.
And how many BCS bowls has the "pride of the state" been to in the last 10 years compared with Clemson? The answer may shock you.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 11:08 am to Ross
quote:
lol dude get real
everyone knew that Auburn team was average at best at almost every position on the field, and they knew it before the season kicked off. The only reason we even started the season ranked was because of the previous year, and we returned virtually nobody from that team.
In our first game that year we needed a miracle to beat Utah State. In our second game that year we needed a goal line stand to hold off a pretty mediocre MSU squad. At no point did anyone have any delusions that Auburn was anything other than average, and anyone who looked at our schedule could easily have pointed out five losses.
Was Auburn the National Champs the year before or not?
And what makes you think the average fan that rushes the field breaks down every opponent like you just did
The avg fan sees a team that won the NC the year before, they were 2-0 and from the conference that has dominated and is also not shy about reminding people how dominant it has been.
This is an awful lot of arguing over a fanbase rushing the field 3 years ago. In the end who cares, If you think its lame, then don't rush the field.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 11:10 am to RollTide1987
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And how many BCS bowls has the "pride of the state" been to in the last 10 years compared with Clemson? The answer may shock you.
Both years Clemson made it to the Orange Bowl, South Carolina was clearly a better team. SC doesn't benefit from playing in a weak conference like Clemson does.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 11:11 am to FootballNostradamus
quote:
He was referring to LSU. Is English not some of yal's native language?
He was saying LSU is a National Championship caliber team
If the facts don't fit the narrative, we ignore them.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 11:53 am to craigbiggio
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SC doesn't benefit from playing in a weak conference like Clemson does.
You are right, but if USC wouldn't pull a Clemson against inferior teams (UT) or ended up beating teams that Clemson beat in the same season that USC lost to(LSU, UGA), then USC probably would have ended up in a BCS bowl too.
USC fans shouldn't make excuses about their schedule when that "weaker team from across the state" ended up beating some of the same teams that USC lost to.
The LSU's and UGA's are the tough teams that USC has played and lost to the last two years. Regardless of what conference Clemson plays in, they have now shown the last two/three years that when they play out of conference, they can play on the same level as the LSU's, UGA's, Auburns, and Ohio Stats of college football. If those teams wouldn't lose to the scrubs of the SEC East (Kentucky, Vandy, UT, and UF the last few years, what makes anyone think that Clemson would lose to those scrubs as well?
Clemson has one of the best OC in all of college football regardless of what conference they play in. Dabo has signed higher rated classes than probably half of the SEC since he's been the coach at Clemson. Boyd was the MVP of the Army All American game. Watkins was a consensus All American. Ellington and Hopkins were all americans at Clemson and have now shown on the NFL level how talented they were in college as they were both named to the NFL All Rookie team.
Clearly, Clemson has recruited players that are just as good as the top talent in the SEC. Regardless of the fact that Dabo hasn't beaten USC in 5 years, Clemson would probably do just as well as USC has been doing in the SEC the last few years.
Does Clemson have a much easier path to BCS games? Absolutely. But let's not pretend that USC's path there is just leaps and bounds more difficult given the decline in the East the last few years.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/19/14 at 12:40 pm to RollTide1987
His name is Dabo...
/thread
/thread
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:14 pm to Roscoe
quote:
You are right, but if USC wouldn't pull a Clemson against inferior teams (UT) or ended up beating teams that Clemson beat in the same season that USC lost to(LSU, UGA), then USC probably would have ended up in a BCS bowl too.
USC fans shouldn't make excuses about their schedule when that "weaker team from across the state" ended up beating some of the same teams that USC lost to.
My point about ACC being a weak conference is they don't routinely have two powerhouses taking the eligible BCS spots, like LSU/Bama in 2011 or Auburn/Bama this year.
When Clemson Clemsons, they're still more likely to have an available BCS slot because there's rarely two teams still ahead of them in the rankings.
Not that it excuses South Carolina from losing to inferior teams...but it's silly to imply that Clemson is a better team by ignoring their head-to-head record in lieu of BCS appearances.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:22 pm to RollTide1987
quote:This is a stupid fricking statement. But it doesn't surprise me given your avi. You've said stupid stuff before though regarding USC.
And how many BCS bowls has the "pride of the state" been to in the last 10 years compared with Clemson? The answer may shock you.
quote:LINK
South Carolina won't be ranked by the end of the season. They will finish the season with an 8-5 record.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:25 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
LSU, UGA and Ohio State are in the ACC? Damn
so he can beat good teams when his team has a month to prepare for the games, awesome.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 2:21 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
Again, can you read? Clemson fans run onto the field after every single win.
Again? That was my first post in this thread. And I don't give two shits if Clemson wants to run out for every game, I'm just saying that wasn't a win that anyone would ever consider a "big time win" when actually look at the team you played. Clemson wasn't playing 2010 Auburn, they were playing 2011 Auburn, a far inferior product.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 2:48 pm to craigbiggio
quote:
Both years Clemson made it to the Orange Bowl, South Carolina was clearly a better team. SC doesn't benefit from playing in a weak conference like Clemson does.
South Carolina smashed them and finished higher in the polls both years.
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