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re: Who's the better player: James Harden or Dwyane Wade?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
I'll take prime Wade in the playoffs over prime Harden in the playoffs any day of the week.
Harden will have the numbers to beat Wade but never the titles. Is what it is.
Harden will have the numbers to beat Wade but never the titles. Is what it is.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:39 pm
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:44 pm to boom roasted
quote:
Harden is probably the better player
Harden is a great player, but this is not true.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:46 pm to Froman
quote:I have stats on my side. Make your argument.
Harden is a great player, but this is not true.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:48 pm to Froman
A true study of Wade, Dirk, and Harden will show how much people completely change narratives based on championships that involve tons of variables and luck.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:48 pm to Bench McElroy
When Wade got older he started doing the shitty pump fake, then jump into a defender to draw the foul. The NBA modified the rule in response to this blatant cheapness. When are they gonna do that for Harden?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:51 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:Well when you have an inferior complex, don’t be surprised when people treat you like you’re inferior.
The hate for James Harden on this board is irrational. He plays for the Rockets, and that just doesn’t work here. These guys hated the Chinese teddy bear Yao when he was playing a New Orleans team with CP3 and David West.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:02 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
He averaged 15.9 points in the playoffs that year. Can you imagine if Harden he a 16 point GAME in the playoffs right now??? This board would have a field day!
You referenced Dwyane Wade having "nothing to do with that last championship." In a pivotal 7-game series against SAS to win the NBA Finals, Wade averaged nearly 20 points/game. I'd say he made meaningful impact.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:11 pm to hoopsgalore
Yeah in that series he was 20/5/5.
Wade was breaking down sure but he was still an elite defender and made a great Robin to Lebron’s Batman.
Wade was breaking down sure but he was still an elite defender and made a great Robin to Lebron’s Batman.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:24 pm to genro
quote:
When are they gonna do that for Harden?
Have you heard of the new continuation rule?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:28 pm to hoopsgalore
Perhaps my wording was harsh. But my main point is that Wade should not be given some extra credit to his career for winning that series. The Heat win a title with Harden in that backcourt instead of Wade.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:29 pm to Bench McElroy
For now Wade.
If Harden keeps this pace for another 3-4 years.
Harden.
If Harden keeps this pace for another 3-4 years.
Harden.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Regular Season
Wade's numbers from 2003-2014: 24.3 PPG, 6.0 APG, 5.0 RPG
Harden with Houston(7 seasons and no sign of slowing down).
Regular season: 29 ppg, 7.7 asp, 6 rpg
quote:
Postseason
Wade's numbers from 2003-2014: 22.9 PPG, 5.1 APG, 5.3 RPG, 22.7 PER, .161 WS/48
Harden postseason: 28.2 ppg, 7 asp, 5.7 rpg, 23.5 PER, .161 WS/48
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:31 pm to 21JumpStreet
I also believe that Harden’s game will age much better than Wade’s. He relies much less on athleticism. Wade was really tough on his body.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:15 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:22/5/5 on 51% shooting the 2 seasons Lebron "drug his arse" to a title.
LeBron drug his arse to those last two championships
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:24 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:None.
I wonder how many titles Harden would have if he got to play in the East with Shaq, LeBron, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, etc without a dynasty out West.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:56 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Some stats taken from the LeBron James Harden Twitter account:
All NBA first team:
Harden - 5
Wade - 2
MVP:
Harden - 1
Wade - 0
Player of the week:
Harden - 22
Wade - 19
Player of the month:
Harden - 8
Wade - 6
Scoring titles:
Harden - 2
Wade - 1
Assist titles:
Harden - 1
Wade - 0
All NBA first team:
Harden - 5
Wade - 2
MVP:
Harden - 1
Wade - 0
Player of the week:
Harden - 22
Wade - 19
Player of the month:
Harden - 8
Wade - 6
Scoring titles:
Harden - 2
Wade - 1
Assist titles:
Harden - 1
Wade - 0
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 7:05 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
Player of the week: Harden - 22 Wade - 19
Oh boy......
quote:
Player of the month: Harden - 8 Wade - 6
Yup THIS matters a lot......
quote:
Assist titles: Harden - 1 Wade - 0
WOW.......
NBA Titles????????
Here is a bottom line FACT.... Harden CHOKES in the playoffs........
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:33 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 5/24/19 at 9:02 am to SwaggerCopter
I’m pretty sure I have Harden > Wade.
But Wade’s career was clearly better. And if Harden doesn’t keep making a fool of himself at times and in stretches in the playoffs and comes away with zero rings, I’ll have to rethink.
But Wade’s career was clearly better. And if Harden doesn’t keep making a fool of himself at times and in stretches in the playoffs and comes away with zero rings, I’ll have to rethink.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 9:11 am to ReauxlTide222
Ready,
Statistically Hardens last three seasons is better than any players three year run outside of course mike and lebron.
For guys like bird, wade, magic, Kobe, you can cherry pick their top 3 seasons, they don’t even have to be consecutive, and they aren’t as good as hardens last three when you look at your WS, WS/48, VORP, PER, etx.
And harden hasn’t even topped out yet as a player.
Statistically Hardens last three seasons is better than any players three year run outside of course mike and lebron.
For guys like bird, wade, magic, Kobe, you can cherry pick their top 3 seasons, they don’t even have to be consecutive, and they aren’t as good as hardens last three when you look at your WS, WS/48, VORP, PER, etx.
And harden hasn’t even topped out yet as a player.
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