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re: Who Would You Pick for NFL MVP?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:44 pm to Rand AlThor
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:44 pm to Rand AlThor
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My biggest issue with Ryan is that no one on earth would ever even argue that Ryan is the best player on his team. He isn't. Not even CLOSE. So how do you give a guy the MVP when he isn't even the best player on his team?
Because best =/= valuable. If Matt Ryan missed the same amount of games as Julio they don't have a chance to win any. Because Ryan is more valuable to that team even though Julio is better
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Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:52 pm to Volmanac
Cowboys OL should share it.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 3:54 pm to Byron Bojangles III
MVP has never been a literal award for "most valuable"
If that was the case Then the MVP would go to whatever QB got hurt that season
If that was the case Then the MVP would go to whatever QB got hurt that season
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:00 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:I know I was just proving a point
MVP has never been a literal award for "most valuable"
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:06 pm to Rand AlThor
Julio is a great player and the extra attention he gets is important to that offense but both this and last year he's not shown he can lead the team to wins alone by his big games.
A lot of his big games this season have equated to a Falcons loss. He had a huge season last year and the team went 8-8.
He's the best talent but is not the most valuable player of the offense. Your best bet against the Falcons offense is to go against logic with Julio and just put your best corner on him and force him to beat you alone. History's shown that while he can at times he doesn't do it consistently enough to really be afraid of doing it.
Like he can have a 300 yard receiving game in a win, and then whirl and have a 110ish yard receiving game a few games later but have a very very bad drop that leads to a key INT and loss.
A lot of his big games this season have equated to a Falcons loss. He had a huge season last year and the team went 8-8.
He's the best talent but is not the most valuable player of the offense. Your best bet against the Falcons offense is to go against logic with Julio and just put your best corner on him and force him to beat you alone. History's shown that while he can at times he doesn't do it consistently enough to really be afraid of doing it.
Like he can have a 300 yard receiving game in a win, and then whirl and have a 110ish yard receiving game a few games later but have a very very bad drop that leads to a key INT and loss.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 5:52 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Actually, best = most valuable. The player who provides the most value to their team is the best.
Therefore, it should be the QB who has the best season, which is clearly Matt Ryan. Fair or not, a QB is by far the most important position and the most valuable.
Therefore, it should be the QB who has the best season, which is clearly Matt Ryan. Fair or not, a QB is by far the most important position and the most valuable.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:09 pm to wildtigercat93
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If that was the case Then the MVP would go to whatever QB got hurt that season
Lay off the egg nog
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:11 pm to Volmanac
I would be fine with Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, or Carr.
I don't think it should be Elliot, which may or may not be a popular opinion.
I don't think it should be Elliot, which may or may not be a popular opinion.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:32 pm to Lester Earl
Believe me, I hate that logic, so we are in agreement
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:38 pm to Volmanac
Matt Cassel
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:39 pm to Volmanac
Matt Ryan
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:52 pm to Caplewood
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Nah man aldrick Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, and Justin hardy are elite NFL wideouts
I mean Freeman is really good and Coleman is a poor man's David Johnson. Julio is a top 5 player in the league regardless of position. Atlanta has plenty of weapons.
You mention Gabriel in jest but the dude can flat out fly, pure speed demands attention
Posted on 12/25/16 at 7:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Ryan
Numbers are there, and Falcons are watching the playoffs from home if he got injured.
Numbers are there, and Falcons are watching the playoffs from home if he got injured.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 7:13 pm to TigernMS12
As a non Saints fan. Bress should win
Posted on 12/25/16 at 8:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Defense?
If we're truly defining MVP as the player who made the biggest W/L difference, Prescott and Zeke are taking basically the same roster that went 4-12 last year without Romo to possibly 14-2 this year.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:01 pm to WONTONGO
quote:I'd be good with this.
Cowboys OL should share it.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:31 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
yes I know Gabriel can fly, he has turned into one of my favorite Falcons to watch play but let's not act like he is a top 40 receiver in the league. Sure Julio and Sanu are a damn fine duo but the 9 other players (obviously not including Coleman and Freeman) that have caught touchdowns this year make up a who's who list of essentially nobody's and also-rans. Matt Ryan has made them look much better than they are, and I'm one of if not the biggest Matt Ryan detractor out of the Falcons fans on this site.
The biggest impact players this year(but not in the glamour position like Ryan ) for the Falcons have been Alex Mack and Ryan Schraeder. Our offensive line as a whole has been so much better than the past few years and this might just be the best line Matt has played behind. An all pro center is exactly what all the young guys on our line needed to steady the ship and get them all headed in the right direction.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:17 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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If Zeke wasn't a rookie, he wouldn't have made the pro-bowl.
quote:
Wait what? He is going to win the rushing title as a rookie
This is what happens when you drink all day...you read "Zeke" and your drunk arse brain processes "Dak". Deserve the shite...
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:19 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Oh got it. I was so confused
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