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re: Who should the mavs get to help luka
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:20 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:20 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Why would contending team give up their best players? Dallas doesn’t have anything of value to give to anyone. KP is a negative asset.
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:21 am to goldennugget
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Mavs need to get rid of Luka...
Agreed Mavs should trade him to the Hawks, imagine Trae and Luka on the same team
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:22 am to wildtigercat93
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To be fair, the only reason they could move wall is because they miraculously found an equally bad contract to trade it for
True, like I said it's going to be hard to move him based on the years left, but every time we see an "immovable contract" that team has found a way to move it.
A team like OKC who knows they're a couple years away and knows at least this draft stinks could take it on for a bunch more picks. Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm not writing it off either
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:24 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I agree with this but they are not gonna bring in the help he needs in Portland. You put him on the mavs next year and they are the favorites instantly......
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:25 am to goldennugget
Watch basketball much?????
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:26 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I get pissed when I hear people talk crap about Westbrook. He is not a bad contract. He averaged 22/12/12 and only missed 7 games this year. That is insane and historically great. The Wizards improved this year and actually made a run at the playoffs. The guy is amazing..
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:27 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:you don’t think Milwaukee would take a straight trade porzingis for portis? Milwaukee would get a better talent and Dallas would get a more reliable big from a health standpoint
Why would contending team give up their best players? Dallas doesn’t have anything of value to give to anyone. KP is a negative asset.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:27 am to brmark70816
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I get pissed when I hear people talk crap about Westbrook. He is not a bad contract. He averaged 22/12/12 and only missed 7 games this year. That is insane and historically great. The Wizards improved this year and actually made a run at the playoffs. The guy is amazing..
Good players can have bad contracts.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:28 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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True, like I said it's going to be hard to move him based on the years left, but every time we see an "immovable contract" that team has found a way to move it.
Yeah but usually the teams that got to move it, weren’t contenders and so they didn’t mind the price it took to get it off the books
If you’re trying to make the team around Luka better, trading Porzingus for either someone else’s broken toy or shredding up all your assets to get 10 cents back doesn’t really make sense for them
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A team like OKC who knows they're a couple years away and knows at least this draft stinks could take it on for a bunch more picks. Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm not writing it off either
I’m not sure what value more late round firsts have for OKC. They already have quadruple the amount of picks they could possibly use on real roster spots the next couple years
There’s 4 whole years on that entire KP contract. That’s a long rope to sign yourself up for- if you can even get the money to work. And even then Dallas might not even be better off as a team for it
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:30 am to brmark70816
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I get pissed when I hear people talk crap about Westbrook. He is not a bad contract. He averaged 22/12/12 and only missed 7 games this year. That is insane and historically great. The Wizards improved this year and actually made a run at the playoffs. The guy is amazing..
He’s owed 90 million over the next two years and is 31. It’s an awful contract for the kind of player he is at this stage. That’s not debatable
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:32 am to wildtigercat93
And that’s the NBA’S fault...... he is a great player and gives it ALL every night..... the Mavs would love to have him and I am sure he would restructure his contract if neede.....
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:33 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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you don’t think Milwaukee would take a straight trade porzingis for portis?
Well first off, you need to figure out the 26 million dollar difference in their salaries to even have this conversation
And secondly the Bucks would laugh them off the phone. Why would they purposely tie on the KP anchor to their roster
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:33 am to dukke v
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and I am sure he would restructure his contract if neede.....
Westbrook isn’t passing up 90 million over the next two years
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:40 am to wildtigercat93
He is a marquee player putting up historical numbers on competitive basketball teams. He is, by the numbers, one of the greatest basketball players of all time. He is setting records that will never be touched.
He has a monster contract. But it is far from bad. It just looks that way when you pair him with other wannabe franchise players (ala Beal) and the teams underperformed. So he takes all the criticism, even though he is playing his arse off..
He has a monster contract. But it is far from bad. It just looks that way when you pair him with other wannabe franchise players (ala Beal) and the teams underperformed. So he takes all the criticism, even though he is playing his arse off..
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:46 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Unless he is just super unhappy and wants out I don't think the Mavs are ready to move KP. When he was available he was actually pretty decent for most of the regular season.
The Clippers are just a really bad matchup for him b/c they have 3 guys in Kawhi, George, and Morris that are giving him a ton of trouble defensively.
He is still only 25 and has time to work on the holes in his game. So long as he stays healthy through the rest of the playoffs this will be the first time in forever that he won't be rehabbing through the summer. That's a big deal when it comes to player development.
However, ff the Mavs do want to move on from him I think Indiana might be ready to do a large roster overhaul and a Myles Turner/TJ Warren combo would be a potential target for a swap. Who knows? Maybe LeBron realizes his days as a lead dog are over and forces a trade to Dallas so he can piggy back off Luka to try and get one more title.
The Clippers are just a really bad matchup for him b/c they have 3 guys in Kawhi, George, and Morris that are giving him a ton of trouble defensively.
He is still only 25 and has time to work on the holes in his game. So long as he stays healthy through the rest of the playoffs this will be the first time in forever that he won't be rehabbing through the summer. That's a big deal when it comes to player development.
However, ff the Mavs do want to move on from him I think Indiana might be ready to do a large roster overhaul and a Myles Turner/TJ Warren combo would be a potential target for a swap. Who knows? Maybe LeBron realizes his days as a lead dog are over and forces a trade to Dallas so he can piggy back off Luka to try and get one more title.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:47 am to brmark70816
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He has a monster contract. But it is far from bad. It just looks that way when you pair him with other wannabe franchise players (ala Beal) and the teams underperformed. So he takes all the criticism, even though he is playing his arse off..
He's a 31 year old guard that can't shoot and somehow forgot how to make free throws. I don't hate Westbrook as much as some and the Wizards were much better than anyone guessed this year, but Cmon
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:49 am to Dr RC
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When he was available
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So long as he stays healthy
This is the important part
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He is still only 25
And guys his size don't find better legs as they age.
It's not that he's a bad player, but he's a 3rd fiddle on a 1st or 2nd fiddle deal.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:55 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Absolutely not. that trade is illegal anyway. Mil would have too much salary.
that trade is illegal anyway. Mil would have too much salary. 
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:57 am to Boomshockalocka
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They have 3 more years to pay KP. Franchise crippling co tract
The Pacers have evidently been inquiring about KP, so we know their is some interest. Obviously his contract is awful right now because his performance in the post season has been so bad. But if he really wants out, which I think he does, Dallas could talk him into giving everything he has in the first half of next season when the competition is at its lowest and he has a real offseason to improve his knee. By trade deadline people may be thinking that his contract is pretty decent, not a complete anchor.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:58 am to brmark70816
A team with westbrook as its best player has a ceiling for first round exit. He is maybe the most Inefficient high volume shooter of all time. He kills any chance to have elite team offense bc he misses so many shots. His rebounding #s are highly overrated 80% of them are uncontested.
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