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re: Who is the 3rd greatest franchise in NBA history?

Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:46 am to
I will answer this by simply ranking the average or each team's "winning" stats.

Spurs - 4.8
76ers - 5.2
Bulls - 6.8
Pistons - 8.6
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:48 am to
It's close between SA and Chicago IMO
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:26 am to
It's pretty clearly The Bulls

You have the Russell Celtics winning all those championships, with the West-Baylor Lakers as also-rans

Then there are the great Bird-Magic teams battling it out

And then you have MJ making the NBA a marketing colossus around the world
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:28 am to
Spurs can have it.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7162 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:31 am to
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With Philly you've got the Wilt Chamberlain era and then the Dr. J era, on top of that they've had NBA greats like Barkley, Iverson, and Moses Malone.


But the flip side of that argument is what did they accomplish with all those names. With the averages of each all time ranking, I didn't weight any one category as more important than the other. But most people would probably agree that championships are more important, over all, than total wins.

Sure the 76ers have the 3rd most all time wins and some of the greats of the game played there, but the Bulls have won twice as many titles.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:34 am to
I vote Spurs. They won their first championship in 1999, their latest one in 2014. That's a culture of excellence. Bulls ran off all of theirs in one shot, which of course is amazing but it doesn't speak to the franchise's ability to put it back together once MJ left.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:39 am
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:35 am to
It's the Spurs. The Bulls need another title contending run to be surpass them
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13054 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:39 am to
Spurs.

Bulls didn't even have a well run franchise at the time they were winning titles. Reinsdorf and Krause were jokes throughout those years. To give the nod to Chicago is basically just giving the nod to Jordan, Jackson, and Pippen.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63047 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:52 am to
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I vote Spurs. They won their first championship in 1999, their latest one in 2014.

This is how I feel as well. They've done it with Duncan as a young star and as an aging vet who plays more of a complimentary role. It's probably me being biased favoring the Bulls and Spurs because I'm younger and started watching the NBA around when MJ came back from baseball, but whatever. The Spurs, as much I hate them, have been the model for how to run a franchise in the NBA and arguably all of pro sports for a large period of my life
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:02 am to
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I vote Spurs. They won their first championship in 1999, their latest one in 2014. That's a culture of excellence. Bulls ran off all of theirs in one shot, which of course is amazing but it doesn't speak to the franchise's ability to put it back together once MJ left.


I would support the argument that the Bulls and Spurs are neck and neck. And I know the question is about history, but 5 years from now the next 3 years will be history. Which team is most likely to add to their legacy over the next 3 seasons? Seems like the answer is pretty obvious.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:15 am to
For all the "Spurs are a well-run franchise and have won with different players etc etc etc" replies

Spurs are just another basketball team

Jordan's Bulls are iconic
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:36 am to
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Los Angeles Lakers


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16 nba championships - 2nd all time




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Boston Celtics


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17 nba championships - 1st all time





Well that settles it.....


Boston is #1..plus they won all those titles in a row.........
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38985 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I vote Spurs. They won their first championship in 1999, their latest one in 2014. That's a culture of excellence. Bulls ran off all of theirs in one shot, which of course is amazing but it doesn't speak to the franchise's ability to put it back together once MJ left.


Yep. Spurs have done it across 3 decades.

But my Bulls are about to make a run of championships led by McBuckets to close the gap.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:53 am to
Boston #1.

Lakers #2, due to Minneapolis Mikan, and LA

Warriors, tie for #3 due to Philadelphia early successes Joe Fulks, Wilt, Dr J and SF Bay

Chicago, tie for #3 due to MJ with props to great team that lost in 7 games, including two OT losses to LA with Wilt, Jerry West and some other solid hall of famer. That Bulls team had Sloan and Chet Walker. West stole the ball in the open court from Norm Van Lier to bring LA back in game 7 to lead by 1 and Wilt blocked the next Chicago shot by Norm Van Lier in the lane with the game on the line.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:54 am to
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Spurs are just another basketball team


99% of NBA teams trying to copy the Spurs would disagree
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11231 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:28 am to
What about the Knicks? They have over 2600 wins and 8 conference titles, plus 2 championships.. as much of a case as the Bulls and Pistons..
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:53 am to
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due to Minneapolis Mikan, and LA

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:56 am to
Celtics
Lakers
Bulls
Spurs
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:56 am to
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6 nba championships - 3rd all time

There you go.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11033 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:07 pm to
I would say Bulls. They are a marque franchise still because of Jordan and in the third largest market. The spurs are fourth and there's no shame in that. The Bulls in the 90s were the biggest thing in the NBA.
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