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Who does Hack Brown have Pictures of??????

Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Tiger Abe
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:23 pm
Instead of worrying about how the worlds shortest egomanic is destroying LSU's future - allegedly - would somebody please explain why a kid with any legitimate talent would get hoodwinked by Mr. February over in Austin?

Year after year - going on 14 now, he pulls in Top 5 Recruiting Classes - just from a recruting-longevity perspective - Brown is the one guy that can honestly lay claim to having out-recruited Mini-Me.

But just as the day follows night, each fall Brown does his dead-level best to find some new and imaginative way to waste tons of talent and end another season in relative mediocrity.

Considering the money and talent it's amazing that the Alumni haven't given Mack a dirt nap a long time ago. He has finished out of the Top 10 over 50% of his season at UT, only 3 big 12 Titles in 14 years - and arguably the weakest half of a over-hyped, under achieving conference.

At least the Midget-in-Red can coach kids after he gets them to come to football factory, ahh... sorry...University.

To be able to keep your job this long & get a huge contract extension after a 12-12 record of the last 2 seasons, plus ruining the futures of - uhh... successfully bringing in yet another Top 5 Class this year - I am curious - does Mack have some serious leverage over the Admin & Alums at UT or did he sell his soul to the devil - no I don't mean Saban.....



Posted by HornsTiger07
East Texas
Member since Jan 2012
317 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:34 pm to
Could be that he is 141–39 since taking the head job at Texas. Just saying
Posted by Les Cajones
Kentwood
Member since Dec 2007
998 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:37 pm to
my mom could do better with those classes
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:42 pm to
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Could be that he is 141–39 since taking the head job at Texas. Just saying


Well yeah 78% winning pct beat Augies .390 BAC every time.
Posted by Tiger Abe
Tiger Town
Member since Aug 2011
795 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 8:42 pm to
Darrel Royal would roll over in his grave to see the repeated coach-fests to the UCLA's, BYU's etc. year after year without impunity. What gives?

They have more money, talent & exposure than just about anybody. I just don't get it.....
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6887 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 9:04 pm to
I believe one poster hit the nail on the head a month or two ago when he said that to the players, Brown represents a figure-head and they consider the 2 coordinators, Diaz and Harsin their real coaches. As demanding as that alumni is, I am surprised Mack has managed to survive this long with all those supposedly great recruiting classes, but very little to show for it.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12377 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 9:35 pm to
The reasons he has survived and the reasons for recruits going there are different.

He survived because he has been intregal in making Texas the most valuable program in the country, he is a great ambassador for the school,his record(you don't fire a man with his record after 2 down years) and he is revered around that program by fans and administrators alike.

The reasons recruits go there have been explained quite a few times on here. The school sells itself, most kids live and breath Longhorn football, Mack is a very good in person recruiter, they have a "cartel" of hs coaches that entice and push kids their way and in Texas, is there really a better option? I don't think so. If I were from Texas and not loyal or a fan of any program in Texas but had the opportunity to pick my school of choice in Texas, the University of Texas(Austin) would be the easy choice. They are just a cut above every other school in the state for a football prospect. Also if you've ever been to Austin you'll know why some kids go there.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7758 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 10:31 pm to
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Darrel Royal would roll over in his grave


Darrell Royal is not dead....
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 10:49 pm to
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Darrel Royal would roll over in his grave


He's probably not rolling over in his grave because unlike your brain, he is alive.

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I just don't get it.....


That's because you are an uniformed idiot.

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12-12 record of the last 2 seasons,


That's because the AD at UT is not a retarded fan and looks at more than just the last 2 years and might realize that he was 25-2 the 2 years before that, including a BCS CG appearance.

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plus ruining the futures of - uhh... successfully bringing in yet another Top 5 Class this year


Texas has 40-50 odd guys in the NFL, Brown has been there since 98, so pretty much all of them are his recruits.
This post was edited on 2/25/12 at 10:53 pm
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
22993 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 11:49 pm to
Could be a Colt McCoy injury away from 2 national titles. Seems like a hard sell to fire that guy. He's obviously slipping and his teams have always played "soft" IMO but he'll get to leave on his own terms based on his success there.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21283 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:23 am to
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Could be that he is 141–39 since taking the head job at Texas. Just saying


what's his record vs oklahoma?

how many big xii championships has he won?

i know the answer to the two questions above, but i don't know this. what's his record vs ranked opponents?

i don't think he's a very good coach at all, regardless of his record. he is one hell of a recruiter though.
Posted by HornsTiger07
East Texas
Member since Jan 2012
317 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:41 pm to
Hum Hack Brown got two commits today could be going for the turkey and the best thing is, its not even monday yet
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:46 pm to
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i don't think he's a very good coach at all, regardless of his record.


Then maybe you can be the one to answer this question for me. If he's not a good coach, why was UNC 21-3 his last 2 years there, but have lost at least 5 games every year since he left?

That he's 4-7 vs OU and they are in his division has hurt the # of conference titles. All that means is he's not as good as Stoops abd OU. But you don't win as many games, a NC and play for another by not being a very good coach.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61130 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:51 pm to
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i don't think he's a very good coach at all, regardless of his record. he is one hell of a recruiter though.


Recruiter or beneficiary?
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 6:01 pm to
2 fricking big 12 titles in 14 years?????
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 6:12 pm to
How many should he have?

They got arguably shafted out of one in 2008. OU was just better from 2000-2004.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61130 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 6:26 pm to
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How many should he have?


Every year Oklahoma didn't win the Big 12, Texas should have won. Should have lost against Nebraska too in 2009, garbage call at the end.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 6:34 pm to
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Every year Oklahoma didn't win the Big 12, Texas should have won


They were not got last year, in 2003 OU got upset in the CG and in 2001 Texas lost to CU, they won it 05 and 09, and OU won the rest. Only one they really doinked imo is 2006, they beat OU and only blew last 2 vs KSU and ATM.

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Should have lost against Nebraska too in 2009, garbage call at the end.


nah, it was the right call.

The conference titles keeps him from being a truly elite coach imo. He's a great coach, but i do think its time for him to move on. They can not and should not fire him.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21283 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 7:53 pm to
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Then maybe you can be the one to answer this question for me. If he's not a good coach, why was UNC 21-3 his last 2 years there, but have lost at least 5 games every year since he left?


because he can recruit. there's no shame in losing to oklahoma, i'll admit that. but losing 63-14 in 00, 65-13 in 03, and 55-17 last year is crazy. he signs top 5-10 classes almost every year, and he's losing to OU like that?

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But you don't win as many games, a NC and play for another by not being a very good coach.


vince young would win a nc for a lot of major cfb programs. just look at what cam newton and tebow did for their respective schools. vince young was on their level. the other thing is, both times he played for the nc oklahoma was "down". it's not like i have anything agsinst brown, or the university. in fact, i live 30 miles from norman and i can't stand ou. i pull for texas every october. there are some ou fans that think stoops has ran his course and maybe he should move on. imo, that's foolish. i think he's a great coach. i just can't say the same for mack brown.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 7:55 pm
Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 9:56 pm
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