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Which sports do refs have the most/least influence?

Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:55 am
To me the most is NFL football. The “automatic first down” penalties give refs too much power. Refs make mistakes every game. We’ve all seen refs make mistakes on catch/no catch, knee down/not down, improper ball placement. But those can be remedied with reviews. They also make mistakes on penalty calls which involved a lot of judgement. And those can not be corrected and to make it worse, those penalties are penalized to the fullest extent with the automatic 1st down. To reduce these refs influence and judgement errors, nfl should do yard penalty + replay the down.

The least is UFC and boxing. Sure there’s an early stoppage every now and then. But I can’t remember the last i’m watching a fight and I go “fricking ref” or “what an awful call”. They just let the fighters fight.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:57 am to
Least is golf
Posted by Partha
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:57 am to
Good point on the NFL. I do think the refs have too much influence on the game and really has ruined it. Can't even watch it until the second round of the playoffs anymore.

However, I think the sport where the "refs" (umps) have most influence is MLB. Particularly the home plate ump. His perception of the strike zone can really dictate the outcome of a game.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 10:59 am to
Most is football. Least is hockey. Even if a bad penalty is called, still no guarantee the beneficiary will score. In football the refs can escort a team to the EZ when they want.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:05 am to
The most influence is basketball… fouls can be so subjective sometimes leading to a free throw disparity and then players fouling out which is a factor at crunch time
Posted by BamaCoaster
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:08 am to
Least is tennis.

Most: soccer, basketball, football (in that order of 1a, 1b, 1c)

Golf, while reds don’t dictate much, is not a sport.

A sport is defined as an athletic competition where your opponent can DIRECTLY alter what you do.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by UKWildcats
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Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:12 am to
I'd say MLB has the most influence, because the ump is involved with every single pitch of the game.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:13 am to
Track isn’t a sport?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:24 am to
The least team sport is probably volleyball (at least at the highest levels where there are hardly any violation called any more, and everything can be challenged).
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:39 am to
Soccer and it's not close. Scoring is generally very low. Most leagues average 2-3 goals per game. Imagine if an American football league averaged 14-21 points for a whole year.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:42 am to
quote:

A sport is defined as an athletic competition where your opponent can DIRECTLY alter what you do.

Where are you seeing that definition?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Track isn’t a sport?
Or swimming? Or gymnastics?
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Where are you seeing that definition?
He/she made it up.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:54 am to
Most: rugby
Least: tennis
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38433 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:54 am to
quote:

A sport is defined as an athletic competition where your opponent can DIRECTLY alter what you do.



Said no one ever.

Sport (noun) - an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

By your definition the following are not sports.

Pole Vault
High Jump
Long Jump
Javelin
Shot Put
Discuss
Powerlifting
Diving


Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
6601 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:03 pm to
None more than basketball closely followed by American football.

Soccer is starting to get ridiculous too now with VAR
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:07 pm to
In baseball umps getting it wrong is considered not only acceptable but part of the identity of the sport.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6268 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Pole Vault High Jump Long Jump Javelin Shot Put Discuss Powerlifting Diving


Not sports.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
51869 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

In baseball umps getting it wrong is considered not only acceptable but part of the identity of the sport.


Well yeah they’re only human…
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38433 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

quote:

Pole Vault High Jump Long Jump Javelin Shot Put Discuss Powerlifting Diving



Not sports.




Hmmm

[quote]BamaCoaster[/quote}

Definitely an idiot.
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