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re: Which Pro Franchise's have the most loyal fanbase?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 12:28 pm to RPC4LSU
Posted on 10/13/09 at 12:28 pm to RPC4LSU
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You mean the cincy fans that will not support a 4-1 Bengals team? They are reporting the game will be blacked out this week.
Cut them some slack, hard economic times.lol.
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 12:36 pm to LSUbase13
Posted on 10/13/09 at 12:51 pm to Covington
Since everyone is pimping their own fanbase, let me point out that Baltimore had its team stolen in the middle of the night and then had the NFL work tirelessly for 13 years to keep us from getting a new team. In that time, we still kept up such delusional hope and spirit on pro football, we still kept the damned marching band (movie is on tonight!)
I ask, seriously, how many fanbases could survive 13 years in the wilderness without a team and having the NFL Commissioner hold a press conference and say “your city would be better off spending its money on a museum than trying to get a team” and still fanatically support the team? No one has taken more swift kicks to the nuts than Baltimore fans. Yet we’re still here, and reviled by everyone.
I ask, seriously, how many fanbases could survive 13 years in the wilderness without a team and having the NFL Commissioner hold a press conference and say “your city would be better off spending its money on a museum than trying to get a team” and still fanatically support the team? No one has taken more swift kicks to the nuts than Baltimore fans. Yet we’re still here, and reviled by everyone.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 12:56 pm to Baloo
I do feel sorry for old colts fans but replacing your team with another who left town for greener pastures is no better. Ravens fans have come out of the wood work. But Bmore is in a tough spot. Lots of redskins,steelers and eagles fans in the area. Hell Columbia MD which is close as hell to Baltimore is a redskins town, most of the bars there refuse to put up ravens stuff.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
No, we stole a team. The last straw was the expansion when Jacksonville didn't have their bid together on time so the NFL delayed the announcement to get a few more weeks to get financing together just so the NFL wouldn't give a team to Baltimore. The league made it abundantly clear it would do anything to prevent us from getting a team again. It bent over backwards to get a team back in ST LOUIS, but worked to screw Baltimore over and over again.
You can argue over the merits of what Baltimore did, but you cannot question our loyalty. Or fanaticism.
Columbia/Ellicott City is the dividing line of Ravens/Redskins. If you can't get someone to change the TV in a Columbia bar, drive five minutes to Jilly's. Or any bar on Main Street in OEC.
You can argue over the merits of what Baltimore did, but you cannot question our loyalty. Or fanaticism.
Columbia/Ellicott City is the dividing line of Ravens/Redskins. If you can't get someone to change the TV in a Columbia bar, drive five minutes to Jilly's. Or any bar on Main Street in OEC.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:05 pm to Baloo
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You can argue over the merits of what Baltimore did, but you cannot question our loyalty. Or fanaticism.
esp with the O's. But some people didnt latch on to the ravens until after the super bowl. You also got alot of people jumping ship from the skins fan base
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:07 pm to Baloo
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Since everyone is pimping their own fanbase, let me point out that Baltimore had its team stolen in the middle of the night and then had the NFL work tirelessly for 13 years to keep us from getting a new team. In that time, we still kept up such delusional hope and spirit on pro football, we still kept the damned marching band (movie is on tonight!)
I can't wait to see that tonight. Never understood the situation up there but you'd always see clips of that moving truck leaving.lol.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:09 pm to bayou2003
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I can't wait to see that tonight. Never understood the situation up there but you'd always see clips of that moving truck leaving.lol.
+1, these 30 on 30 shows are going to be good
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:20 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Barry Levinson is a Baltimore guy. His production team did Homicide and the Wire. He also directed Diner, the best film about Balitmore. He'll do us proud.
I'm really, really excited for the special. Oh, for some history on Bob Irsay, this is the greatest hatchet job every published. Long, but worth it.
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Quoting Bert Jones and Bob Irsay's own mother:
I'm really, really excited for the special. Oh, for some history on Bob Irsay, this is the greatest hatchet job every published. Long, but worth it.
LINK
Quoting Bert Jones and Bob Irsay's own mother:
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Bert Jones, the man who quarter-backed the Colts to their three winning seasons under Irsay, will only paraphrase a quote he originally gave to The Sun in Baltimore when asked about Irsay: "He lied and he cheated and he was rude and he was crude and he was Bob Irsay." Then Jones added, "He doesn't have any morals. It's a sad state for the NFL to be associated with him, but beyond that I've removed him from my mind."
Mike McCormack, who coached the Colts in the 1980 and '81 seasons, says, "Those were the two most unpleasant years of my life and I really don't care to comment further on it."
Irsay's mother, Elaine, is 84 years old and in failing health. Reached by phone at her home in Rolling Meadows, Ill., Mrs. Irsay, who still has a rich Hungarian accent, said, "He's a devil on earth, that one." Every few seconds she paused for breath, her voice rising at the start of each thought, then quickly tiring. "He stole all our money and said goodbye. He don't care for me. I don't even see him for 35 years. My husband, Charles, sent him to college. I made his wedding. Five thousand dollars, it cost us. When my husband got sick and got the heart attack, he [Bob] took advantage. He was no good," she said. "He was a bad boy. I don't want to talk about him."
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 1:38 pm to LSUbase13
the saint's fanbase is very loyal and moreso than a lot of teams/cities, but outside of louisiana, it will never get mentioned on any list of the most loyal fanbases.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 2:56 pm to Sophandros
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:05 pm to rocket31
I can arbitrarily assign numbers to make a "score", as well. That doesn't make it a legitimate measure of anything.
Are you familiar with the term "reification"? An example is your attempt to quantify something that's unquantifiable. Loyalty is not something that you can count or add up or tally in an accounting ledger. That's why it's INTANGIBLE, like heart or moxie or swagga.
And don't you dare try to assign numbers to swagga, son!
Are you familiar with the term "reification"? An example is your attempt to quantify something that's unquantifiable. Loyalty is not something that you can count or add up or tally in an accounting ledger. That's why it's INTANGIBLE, like heart or moxie or swagga.
And don't you dare try to assign numbers to swagga, son!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:11 pm to Sophandros
well, then, you have beef with the data i provided. so therefore, it is not such much a me problem, but a you problem...
i do not see any valid reason to call one ignorant given the statistics i provided to prove my point.
hypothetically, i could have inserted the bengals into half these loyalty assessments and it wouldnt make it a truthful.
at the very least one should attempt to back up their claim, which i did....
tbh, i could really care less, but your argument in this thread was very weak, which is surprising, because i am one of the few who usually agrees with what you say.
i do not see any valid reason to call one ignorant given the statistics i provided to prove my point.
hypothetically, i could have inserted the bengals into half these loyalty assessments and it wouldnt make it a truthful.
at the very least one should attempt to back up their claim, which i did....
tbh, i could really care less, but your argument in this thread was very weak, which is surprising, because i am one of the few who usually agrees with what you say.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:14 pm to rocket31
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i do not see any valid reason to call one ignorant given the statistics i provided to prove my point.
You're ignorant about how numbers can and should be used.
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hypothetically, i could have inserted the bengals into half these loyalty assessments and it wouldnt make it a truthful. at least one should attempted to back up their claim, which i did....
As did I. First of all, I was the one in this discussion who was intellectually honest enough to admit that any such question is 100% subjective, while you tried to make it into something objective. Again, how do you objectively measure, say, love?
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tbh, i could really care less, but your argument in this thread was very weak, which is surprising, because i am one of the few who usually agrees with what you say.
My argument is basically that you can't quantify something that is intangible, like loyalty, love, etc. Anyone who does is blowing smoke up your arse and is basically designing their ranking "system" to prove their preconceived notion of who's more loyal than the others.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:48 pm to rocket31
All i can say is my top 5 going on loyalty alone would be
1. Green Bay
2. Cleveland
3. Washington
4. Chicago
5. Denver
As you can see my loyalty rankings go by the location and market size, weather they play in a Domed or Open air stadium and will the fans show up in the COLD if the team suck. That's why KC is not in my top 5 compared to other teams. I guess because Chiefs fans are LOUD and can Tailgate people think they are loyal.lol.
1. Green Bay
2. Cleveland
3. Washington
4. Chicago
5. Denver
As you can see my loyalty rankings go by the location and market size, weather they play in a Domed or Open air stadium and will the fans show up in the COLD if the team suck. That's why KC is not in my top 5 compared to other teams. I guess because Chiefs fans are LOUD and can Tailgate people think they are loyal.lol.
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