re: Where is Lebron James in your list of all time top NBA players?

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I think you're confusing him with McHale.

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Youre right.Barkley said that about McHale. I dont think he played against walton

Walton played for the Celtics in the late 80's, so they may have played against each other, but Walton certainly was a shell of himself by that point.


I conceded that Bird would go in the list of the Top 10 "in their prime".

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He was a good athlete, not elite. Saying that his basketball IQ was the best ever is about as good of a complement as I could give someone

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That's the thing. I actually think he was an elite athlete. He had a great basketball IQ, but I think people focus on that to the point where they underrate his physical ability and he had a sick killer instinct that rivals Jordan and Kobe.

Dominique was an elite athlete. Bird was a good athlete.

The part where I feel people underrate him is his all-around game. A lot of people remember him as a sharp shooter, but he was good in the post, he could rebound, defend, and was an awesome passer. He did it all.

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Dominique was an elite athlete. Bird was a good athlete.

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'Nique was that dazzling high-flyer. But Bird had great speed for his size, superb strength in the post, great power and drive in his legs, and elite balance and footwork for a guy his size.

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The part where I feel people underrate him is his all-around game. A lot of people remember him as a sharp shooter, but he was good in the post, he could rebound, defend, and was an awesome passer. He did it all.

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I agree. I think we're kinda arguing semantics here. I just bristle a bit when the first thing people compliment about Bird was his intelligence when he really was just an otherworldly player in every way. People seem to forget that (not saying that's what you're doing).