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Where does arm strength rank in your requirements for qb
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:19 pm
I think this is a measurable that is always over valued come draft time that if we take a deeper look at cones back to bite teams more times than not.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 6:22 pm
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Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I think this is a measurable that is always over valued come draft time that if we take a deeper look at cones back to bite teams more times than not
It's nice but not nearly as important as accuracy and pocket awareness
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
#1 - Al Davis
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's right below accuracy, pocket awareness and anticipation for me.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:26 pm to Spelt it rong
I think it's below intelligence as well. I mean the ability to read a defense pre snap and also sometimes when they have a really strong arm even when the have good pocket awareness they make stupid throws into coverage like favre was known to do
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Good call. Intelligence is important, but I feel like most Pro QB's are already intelligent. I've probably gotten really spoiled with Brees there past 11 years 
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:28 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Your 40-yard dash at the combine was worth more than arm strength for Al Davis.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If they have a minimum amount to succeed, it's not a big deal. Teddy Bridgewater basically has the minimum amount of arm strength you can ask for.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Being able to make certain throws is extremely important, but it is still way down the list.
and a lot of these guys with huge arms struggle with touch throws and basic accuracy.
and a lot of these guys with huge arms struggle with touch throws and basic accuracy.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:30 pm to Spelt it rong
quote:the ones that make it are but teams have wasted high round draft picks on guys like jamarcus Russell. They get drooling over the arm strength too much.
I feel like most Pro QB's are already intelligent. I've probably gotten really spoiled with Brees there past 11 years
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:38 pm to Jcorye1
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If they have a minimum amount to succeed, it's not a big deal.
This is the correct answer.
A QB has to be able to complete passes 10-15 past the LOS against zone coverage, IMO. If you have enough arm strength to muscle the ball past a defender in that scenario, anything extra is just a bonus.
If you don't have that much arm, however, all the anticipation and intelligence in the world won't save you from getting picked off a ton by a zone defense.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:42 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
From 0-10 a 6.5
Accuracy 8
Decision making 9
Leadership 10
Accuracy 8
Decision making 9
Leadership 10
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:52 pm to lsucoonass
Yeah leadership is definitely not top of the list someone can be a great leader but if they can't throw a ball accurately what's the point
someone can be a great leader but if they can't throw a ball accurately what's the point 
Posted on 7/2/17 at 6:58 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's very important as their are no good QBs with weak arms. It goes hand in hand with being accurate. You can't lack either or you aren't a good NFL QB
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:02 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
In college accuracy is far, far more important because you can have a dominant offense built around the short passing game in the middle of the field.
In the NFL it's a tougher call because if you can't throw downfield effectively and stretch the field your offense will usually be ineffective in the modern league. Accuracy is probably still more important, but this is precisely why most spread QBs don't succeed in the league. They usually lack good arm strength and can't the deep and sideline throws.
In the NFL it's a tougher call because if you can't throw downfield effectively and stretch the field your offense will usually be ineffective in the modern league. Accuracy is probably still more important, but this is precisely why most spread QBs don't succeed in the league. They usually lack good arm strength and can't the deep and sideline throws.
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:07 pm to Lester Earl
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It's very important as their are no good QBs with weak arms.
I disagree, there are some. It isn't common but it happens.
Brees is still elite despite having relatively poor arm strength over the last several years. Eli and Peyton both had below average arm strength their entire careers, and Peyton set records in Denver with a noodle arm.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
I'm not say8ng it's not important I'm saying there's a couple more things that are more important. Like accuracy and awareness. It doesn't matter if you have a cannon if you don't have it between the ears. Look at jamarcus Russell Ryan mallet and osweiller
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There is a certain threshold that you have to meet in order to be able to play in the NFL but the difference between the #1 and #20 guy in terms of arm strength isn't as incrementally valuable as a lot of other traits. Accuracy is something that is much more of an easily distinguishable factor and therefore the added value is much more tangible.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:27 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
And yet you can throw accurately and make the poor decision by throwing it to the other team
Posted on 7/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's overvalued when evaluating prospects because most other things can be taught, but arm strength can't be learned.
Arm strength is vital as long as it's properly evaluated in context. A strong arm can benefit a good QB, but it does little to help a bad QB. A lot of times it can be a detriment to a bad QB because he will too often rely on his arm to overcome his other deficiencies.
Steve Walsh was the opposite. He had all the tools to be a good NFL QB, but didn't have the arm strength. He kept getting chances, but eventually teams gave up on him because he didn't have the arm strength.
Arm strength is vital as long as it's properly evaluated in context. A strong arm can benefit a good QB, but it does little to help a bad QB. A lot of times it can be a detriment to a bad QB because he will too often rely on his arm to overcome his other deficiencies.
Steve Walsh was the opposite. He had all the tools to be a good NFL QB, but didn't have the arm strength. He kept getting chances, but eventually teams gave up on him because he didn't have the arm strength.
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