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Where are the great American men tennis players?

Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:56 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 9:56 pm
I grew up when Sampras and Agassi were winning grand slam events at a consistent clip. Hell, even Jim Courier was a big name. It seems like Roddick was the last hope for the US when it comes to competing for singles Grand Slam titles.

With the country’s population and economic base, considering tennis isn’t a cheap sport to play, why are we not producing championship level tennis players?

Golf is usually lumped in the same class, but we have many American golfers winning major titles.

Any big tennis fans care to weigh in?
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:14 pm to
Y’all suck for not telling me about this Serena Williams dude. Guy is a stud.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:18 pm to
As I understand it, other countries identify talent at an early age and put them into elite training camps whilst the US relies on high school to develop talent.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 10:29 pm
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:24 pm to
Kinda sad that it seems Canada has more competitive men than us
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:35 pm to
Tiger made golf the cool country club sport.
Posted by Got Blaze
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:43 pm to
They’re to busy playing video games and wearing skinny jeans. Most of the younger generation is allergic to sweat
Posted by BeYou
DFW
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Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:33 pm to
The young Americans that play tennis have largely become too one dimensional. It's all about the big serve and big offense. Not enough focus at a young age on developing movement and defense. This is largely because tennis is mostly played on hard courts in America. We need our younger players to develop better well rounded games and that can be done on grass and clay courts. I think Jenson Brooksby has a shot to be really good.

Quite of few Americans in the Top ATP 100 - last I counted we had six but that might be off. All of them are under the age of 25 and considering you generally peak in tennis in your late 20's, they will likely continue to improve.

All that to say - don't expect any of them to be the next Nadal, Federer, or Djokovic but I think we will see some success from that group of Americans.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/11/21 at 5:38 am to
Not really sure. Probably similar to soccer. Our best athletes play other sports.
Posted by kkhere
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/11/21 at 6:51 am to
Tommy Paul seems to be too busy banging Kiki Passo to care about tennis (don't blame him). Sebastian Korda might be the hope at the moment
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/11/21 at 6:53 am to
Korda is probably the best hope now. Tiafoe is slowly getting better, but I can't see him go much higher than about 10. I agree with Gatorbait that our best athletes are going into other sports.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 3:16 am to
quote:

orda is probably the best hope now. Tiafoe is slowly getting better, but I can't see him go much higher than about 10. I agree with Gatorbait that our best athletes are going into other sports.


Korda and Brooksby could end up being real. It's a weird phenomena, though. None of the explanations totally make sense.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 3:18 am to
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Tommy Paul seems to be too busy banging Kiki Passo to care about tennis (don't blame him).


Jack Sock is probably the most talented american player, but he is definitely too busy banging his smokeshow gf to care about tennis.



I probably wouldn't wanna leave the house either. Laura Little == Solid Dimepiece
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 3:20 am to
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Our best athletes play other sports.


Two points on this:
1. This has always been the case
2. This is the case in other countries as well.

Despite point #1 being true, we still popped out a Pete Sampras somehow, but we haven't popped out any quite like him since.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 3:21 am to
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whilst the US relies on high school to develop talent.


Eh, not really
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 6:50 am to
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As I understand it, other countries identify talent at an early age and put them into elite training camps whilst the US relies on high school to develop talent.


Well, it's also a difference in popularity. In other countries, tennis is a huge sport (after soccer of course) and top athletes want to play it. Whereas in the US, the vast majority of top athletes want to play football, basketball, baseball, etc..

Also, the vast majority of player development for youth tennis players comes from junior tennis outside of high school.

I think it also doesn't help, in terms of media attention, that a lot of the top American guys are big serve, big forehand-type of players with more subtle personalities, which aren't the most exciting to watch. I'm a big tennis fan and even I get bored watching a Taylor Fritz vs Reilly Opelka match.
This post was edited on 10/8/21 at 6:52 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35478 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 8:00 am to
We frankly play too many sports.

Tennis is not "it' now.

It was 'it" in the late 70s and early 80s which is why it produced 70s baby stars in the 90s..Agassi, Sampras, etc.

We don't have European state funded programs. Its College which nobody cares about or get your kid out of school at age 4 and pay for 16 years at the BollettIeri Camp.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 8:06 am to
Korda and Brooksby will be top 10 in the world
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 8:35 am to
quote:

As I understand it, other countries identify talent at an early age and put them into elite training camps whilst the US relies on high school to develop talent.



Not the case at all. The elite are in tennis academies early on
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11154 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 8:45 am to
Another question that needs to be asked is where is the next generation of great male tennis players? We've been hearing about Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic for 2 decades and nobody has stepped up to challenge them. I dont really follow the sport but thats odd to me.
This post was edited on 10/8/21 at 8:46 am
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Another question that needs to be asked is where is the next generation of great male tennis players? We've been hearing about Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic for 2 decades and nobody has stepped up to challenge them. I dont really follow the sport but thats odd to me.


I lean towards that tennis basically got 3 Michael Jordans at once. These guys are just a different level and the generation(s) that have followed just haven’t had anyone close. Fed and Nadal have certainly slowed down now though.
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